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    Posted: 04 June 2022 at 8:07am
I am getting a bit sick and tired of squeaking and rough braking of my disk brakes.
Has anyone replaced disk brakes with drum brakes on a trike.
How practical is it.
I am up for machining backing plates or brackets if needed.

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Which trike is it as ICE can supply both on some models so maybe off the shelf replacement, or help with components.
 
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ICE recommend choosing drums if you want low maintenance trouble free operation, also the best aerodynamics. They can supply all the parts if it's one of their trikes. They are very knowledgeable and helpful if you phone or email them.

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As a matter of interest, all the Velomobiles I've seen have had drum brakes.

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It is a Carbontrike. I will be taking the wheels off tomorrow to see what is possible. It is a magnificent trike with a very compliant ride and 100% bombproof mudguards which shrug off the worst weather.
The only downfall are the b....y disk brakes.
Is there anyone out there who could send me some photos of the ICE backing plate so I can see how it is mounted to the cross beam.
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I would think all the info you need is available here: https://www.sturmey-archer.com/en/products/detail/xl-fd
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Ginkgo have a better selection that would suit your trike better. Including nice black ones with shorter restraining arms. http://shop.ginkgo-veloteile.de/en/Wheel-Accessories/Drum-Brakes/


Note the short arm backing plates are sold separately.

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These are called Side Drum brakes or SD , they come in:-
both left and right versions
70mm & 90mm sizes.
and either M12 axle or a Q/R mounting.

At a push the axle can simply be a M12 bolt and a lock nut

So it would help if your current wheels have M12 axles and then you need some sort of pin or bolt to anchor the black anti rotation plate.

This is the back of my Python Delta however it shows how they can be mounted [ eventually ]


Sorry the site won't make a link of this you will have to copy and paste.

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Originally posted by stormbird stormbird wrote:

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These are called Side Drum brakes or SD , they come in:-
both left and right versions
70mm & 90mm sizes.
and either M12 axle or a Q/R mounting.

At a push the axle can simply be a M12 bolt and a lock nut

So it would help if your current wheels have M12 axles and then you need some sort of pin or bolt to anchor the black anti rotation plate.

This is the back of my Python Delta however it shows how they can be mounted [ eventually ]

https://www.atomiczombie.com/forum/threads/my-life-with-python-trikes-mk1-mk1-5-mk2.33/page-63#post-14841

Sorry the site won't make a link of this you will have to copy and paste.

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Hi Paul. The only problem is that his is a carbon fibre trike so it will need a bit more carbon to mount it. It's not as straight forward mounting parts onto carbon fibre as you might think. Needs to be done by someone who knows how the stresses work in carbon fibre materials.

All  the best.
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Quote Hi Paul. The only problem is that his is a carbon fibre trike so it will need a bit more carbon to mount it. It's not as straight forward mounting parts onto carbon fibre as you might think. Needs to be done by someone who knows how the stresses work in carbon fibre materials.

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Hmm even a carbon trike must have a metal axle ?

The poster asked how ICE mount the back plates ? i though all ICE trikes were steel ?

the first link was for the wrong SA hub brakes they had through axles.

SJS sell the parts you need however they are not sold either as complete wheels or a ' kit of parts '

You need to know what you want , so:-
1 x left back plate [ 70mm or 90mm ]
1 x right back plate [ 70mm or 90mm ]
2 x hub shells [ 70mm or 90mm ]
2 x cable adjusters [ the long ones ]
2 x cable end clamps [ fit the actuating arm saddle ]

spokes and rims

back plates could be Q/R then you also need 2 x Q/R spindles

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