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Shenington 24 hour Race 2011
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I agree with Neil entirely.

Also worth pointing out that we have a new very keen junior racer in Sam Relton, who has come to BHPC from pedal cars. He was at Darley Moor on an ex-Geoff Bird bike and I believe will be at Hillingdon.
That's not poaching - just another example of somebody enjoying both variants of our sport.

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Originally posted by jes@gcre jes@gcre wrote:

It would be great to see a BHPC team taking part.
 
Given enough notice a car could probably be found if no one had the time to take the plunge and build one.
Well Jes, you may be heartened to hear that I too share your non parochial approach to Human Power activities and am currently constructing 2, &3 & (dare I say it )4 wheeled machines to try against other members in next years BHPC events. Having recently entered a very much over engineered pedalcar in the Ringwood do, a lot was learned and many improvements are  being incorporated into the new machine which I was thinking about trying in some BPCC events. I quite like the idea of the 24 hr , though was concerned about getting a suitable team together, but maybe there are more in our Club who may be interested as well as those  members who already take part in pedalcar  events.   By the way your article in the magazine was entertaining, as was the whole thing ,of course!!
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Gosh - it is amazing how some fires flare up!!!  We deliberately left our charter open to all encouraging all aspects of human power.  We do racing which is pretty much inclusive, i.e. we have few rules and more or less anything human powered (I suppose with wheels) can race.  That said - there was a human powered hovercraft at the worlds in 2008, and if that was possible to race, we would probably find a way of including it - airships might be more of a problem!  

The point is we are inclusive in racing for a very good reason.  We would like to produce the ultimate vehicle - a vehicle that is faster than anything else and can be peddled by an incompetent and unfit person (I speak for myself) and still beat everyone.  It is the fact that we allow other vehicles in that means that we get true comparisons.  If a 'tour-de-france' bike came along and beat everyone (and not just being ridden by a tour-de-france rider, then we would all realise we had gone the wrong way and maybe we should go in a different direction.

There are lots of things to learn from the peddle cars - both in terms of construction and also in terms of organisation.  I personally would like to keep this forum to the sort of bikes I ride, but I would not like it to be to the exclusion of all other types of bikes.  I am sure that is not the case with bpcc and they have their own site for in-depth discussions. It seems to have been genuinely for information.

So bottom line, thanks Jes for your contribution.  I have yet to come along to a BPCC only event - but maybe I'll make it to the next Blackbushe sometime.  

We all pedal - some in different ways - let's not fight between us (are we getting like roadies?)
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Originally posted by KevinJ KevinJ wrote:

We all pedal - some in different ways - let's not fight between us (are we getting like roadies?)

 
Maybe we should have a new prize - Blazer of the year anyone?  Evil Smile
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Originally posted by Crossie Crossie wrote:

  Having recently entered a very much over engineered pedalcar in the Ringwood do, a lot was learned and many improvements are  being incorporated into the new machine which I was thinking about trying in some BPCC events.                                                                                                                                                     
 
I remember it - "Tubular Belles" was it?
Beautiful looking machine.
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I remember it - "Tubular Belles" was it?
Beautiful looking machine.
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  Yes, that's right Jes, but as a first attempt and not really having a clue what I was doing it , while also using cheap but not nescessarily light materials, it ended up strong enough for a 75kg porker to travel at illegal speeds ! Thus was much too heavy for 50kg non athlete to pedal fast for very long, however nothing broke and it steered well, was ultra stable around bends and not at all twitchy running hands off in a straight line. The Mk2 version will be very slimmed down , aiming and on target for 20 kg maximum unladen , I hope to get it ready for the start of next seasons activities.
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Looking forward to seeing it.
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Tubular Belle?

It sticks in my memory as a beautiful machine, very nicely put together.

I hope we'll see Mk2 during 2011!

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