2015 Battle Mountain
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Topic: 2015 Battle Mountain
Posted By: russellbridge
Subject: 2015 Battle Mountain
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 10:13pm
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Battle Mountain starts tomorrow - with the Liverpool uni ARION machine who've successfully made it out there judging by their recent facebook photos... https://www.facebook.com/ulvteam" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/ulvteam Are there any blogs/websites going covering results for each day? Russ edit: I've found Mr Larrington's most excellent Automatic Diary: http://automatic-diary.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://automatic-diary.blogspot.co.uk/ and his photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/ and Jun Nogami's blog: https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 10:50pm
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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 14 September 2015 at 9:25pm
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Monday Qualifying Run http://www.ligfiets.net/news/5056/battle-mountain-2015-de-keuring-en-meeting.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.ligfiets.net/news/5056/battle-mountain-2015-de-keuring-en-meeting.html From Google translate: What will define this team is how they recover from setbacks. Keeping all fingers and toes crossed for them. It looks like Delft had some damage to their Velox V machine. But this link sounds more positive and no mention of a fall or damage to Arion1 https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/ "The weather looked positively evil at 6 am at the Super 8, and there was a big green blog approaching from the south on the radar, but we all headed out to the course just in case. It turned out to be a very busy morning of qualifying runs on the 2.5 mile course, although most of the runs were not wind legal. Liverpool’s bike Arion1 looked great in its fancy livery. Ken went 58 mph, and Dave went 51 mph. Natasha has had problems riding it, so she has elected to race an unfaired M5". https://jnyyz.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc01981.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc01929.jpg" rel="nofollow - Note: Edited above Legs Larry's blog seems to echo the 2nd post. |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 14 September 2015 at 10:31pm
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There's some photos here: http://s1024.photobucket.com/user/russellbridge/library/2015-09%20ARION" rel="nofollow - http://s1024.photobucket.com/user/russellbridge/library/2015-09%20ARION of the ARION bike from the launch at Liverpool University 1st Sept. (ps in one of the photos Andrew isn't dancing the twist, he's wearing an Oculus Rift VR headset looking at the underneath of a virtual 3D model of ARION
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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 9:03am
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Looks like very superficial damage that has not even gone through the vinyl sticker here: Weather does not sound great for the Tues run. |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:09pm
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Monday night was called off as even the most nails rider[1] finds it difficult to cope with a gale-impelled sandstorm. Tuesday am was bit blowy still and a lot cooler than Monday morning; Ellen van Vugt bagged a women's multi-track WR on the short course in Garrie Hill's CO2 (a replica of the former trike record holder Completely Overzealous). Dave Collins ran for the Scousers but dropped a chain and coasted through at 39 mph; the scrapes on the fairing are from practice mishaps, mostly Natasha failing to balance it. Todd Reichert in Eta was well over 81 mph but not with a legal wind. Velox V didn't appear this morning even though the bike had been pronounced fit and healthy by tech inspector George I'm loosely affiliated with Team Cygnus this year as Thomas van Schaik has recently relocated to China to work as a Western Half-Devil, or possibly a Monster Face.  "Our" boy Jan-Marcel van Dijken has had two qualifying runs and dropped a chain on both. Not the same chain either. But he did a 76 on the long course and seems happy with progress so far. BHPC is well-represented with Sherri joining Jonathan and me yesterday after holing up in Tonopah on Sunday night because of the 'orrible weather. Peering out of the window, it looks to be brightening up so hopefully tonight will bring some better fortune. The car park is awash with tool-wielding apes putting together the Seiran (at least I think that's what it's called) for local gal Teagan Patterson. Bike designed and built by Mark Anderson and Eric Ware of Wedge fame in Minnesota; much of it nicked from the trailer Saturday night in Salt Lake City, but subsequently recovered, along with quite a quantity of other people's property and some very thick crims, from a stolen car by the SLC rozzers. Mark's not happy unless he's got stuff to take apart and put back together anyway. You hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability. 1: Damjan Zabovnik ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:19pm
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Many thanks Dave!! ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:21pm
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By the way Natasha is now aiming to break the unfaired record as well as nicking the British ladies record from Claire, all on her M5 Highracer. ------------- |
Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:48pm
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Bah! What is Claire's record? Was that set at Bruntingthorpe? ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 4:29am
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Best I could find for Claire was the 39.something at Bentwaters. Evening session rained out. Bah encore! ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 8:28am
Sorry, meant Bentwaters  ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 1:07pm
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Yep - The record for an unfaired machine (set on a velodrome) is apparently 33.554 for ladies and 39.244 for men, so 40MPH would pick up lots of records... http://www.recumbents.com/wrra/records.asp" rel="nofollow - http://www.recumbents.com/wrra/records.asp There is a lot of room for improvement on her current machine as well which has no wheel covers, cables all over the place and is still sporting a mirror as it was really for training on...  ------------- |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 2:05pm
No runs Wednesday morning as it is raining, has been raining all night and is showing no signs of being not raining for the next Several of hours. Meeting at 11:00 (19:00 in BRITAIN) to establish running orders and have a good moan. I don't understand these people - the forecast looked great when we decided on the dates a year ago  Actually, we couldn't have held the event last week as Monday the 7th was a bank holibob in USAnia (and Canada, come to that). ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 6:13am
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None too warm this evening but the wind was better than expected. Todd Reichert nevertheless decided not to run and may well be kicking himself now. The teams asked us to push back the runs as late as possible which proved to be something of a curate's egg. We ran three heats and none of the four riders in the last heat had a legal wind speed, which is the opposite of what usually happens. Things didn't go brilliantly for the Liverpool team; Dave Collins had a skipping chain and got 60.57 mph while Ken Buckley had camera issues and trundled through at 31.64 with Lieske Yntema in Velox V close behind. This made life in catch somewhat interesting, but both teams have a plentiful supply of Penniless Student Oaves so no-one had to ride back to town in the dark. Top speed of the night was my man Jan-Marcel van Dijken in Cygnus Chronos, with a fully-legal 75.31, which means he won't go out tomorrow morning, which in turn means I can do other Stuffs. Pictures from this evening at http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/albums/72157658293144988%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/albums/72157658293144988 once they've finished uploading; full results will be on Jun Nogami's blog at http://jnyyz.wordpress.com/%20" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/ once he's had his dinner. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 9:45am
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Bah! What do you think should be a realistic target for Arion 1 in their first year? ------------- |
Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 9:38pm
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World record broken: Tod Reichert on Eta at 85.71 mph Ken Buckley on Arion1 does 69.73
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 10:22pm
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That's a new British record for Ken as well.... 85MPH is absolutely awesome.  ------------- |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 10:29pm
Soz, I was having me lunch... Pretty good conditions this morning - not as cold as it often gets and it had rained overnight so more humid than usual. The consensus here was that if conditions were right Todd would hammer the world record. They were and he did. And IIRC he's having another run tonight (boggles). New BRITISH record for Ken Buckley at 69.73 mph plus a world 600/200m mark of 21.95 mph for Liz McTernan's unfaired handcycle. And for completeness, a new Italian national record of 68.32 mph for Andrea Gallo in the Turin Polytechnic machine PulsaR. I was in the catch area so my pictures are all dead dull but they're at http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157658332736699" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157658332736699 ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 10:32pm
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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 7:02am
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Ken decked the ARION1 at about 55 mph this evening two miles from timing. He's OK; I haven't seen the bike but it was too badly damaged to allow Dave to run it later in the session and Boss Scouser Pat gave the impression that it's not pretty. Ellen upped her own trike record to 54.45 mph, Damjan got a legal 79.16 and Todd's 82.29 had everyone saying "meh". My man Jan-Marcel had an off day and went over a Several of times at launch before running out of time for further attempts. Bondo and sandpaper for breakfast, lads  ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 9:16pm
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A tanker-load of midnight oil later and the Scousers were back on the road this morning, albeit with a slightly scruffy machine. Dave did a 62 and Ken a cautious and wind-affected 40-something. Further wrecks for Bluenose and Velox V though chiz. Nothing really special this morning but the big kids are all running tonight and the weather is looking much better than it has of late. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 11:48pm
| Good luck lads, well done for getting it back on the road. Let's have a 70! |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 6:31am
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Much warmer this evening and the wind was friendly enough that everyone who completed the course did so with a legal wind speed. Dave made a solid run in AR1 but Ken went on the side of caution and pulled up mid-course - a flawless catch by the crew. They are celebrating by heading back out into the desert to nick the wheels off Mark Mueller's MX5[1] which, after a bit of over-enthusiastic dirt-road hooning, is in a ditch with two fewer working tyres than it had this morning. Communications problems meant the third of the evening heats was later than we'd hoped so neither Damjan nor Jan-Marcel got their hoped-for 80 mph hats; Ellen had a good run with a 69. Earlier Andrea went over 70 to increase his Italian record and, chiz curses, put it higher than Ken's BRITISH one from earlier in the week. First run of all tonight was that pesky Reichert fellow, who only went and banged the world record out to a scarcely believable 86.50 mph, or 139.18 km/h if you prefer. The bike has a design speed of 140 km/h, there's still one evening to go and the weather forecast for tomorrow is for even better weather. 1: Lie. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 6:42am
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Bloody hell. That's a giant leap for mankind... ------------- |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 8:14am
Herewith Mr Reichert receiving the congratulations of my chums at Team Cygnus: I keep seeing the shiny-headed twit in photos this year  ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 9:50am
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Dave went 64.47 mph Ken had a mechanical according to the spreadsheet on Jun's blog Come on guys - fingers and toes crossed for you.
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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 10:41pm
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60.10 for Dave and 63.26 for Ken this morning. They changed the tyres last night; both riders said the handling was better with the new ones and please can they have the ones with lower rolling resistance back for tonight. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 8:06am
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A great final session by the looks of it. Dave does 70mph in Arion Ken does 75mph in Arion World record further pushed to 86.65mph in Eta! |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 8:07am
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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 8:28am
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Just back in from the final evening runs and the awards bash. Todd edged his world record out to 86.65 mph and Damjan finally got his 80 mph hat with an 80.01. And then crashed Eivie 4.2 in what was apparently a deeply spectacular way. He's OK but the bike is almost certainly a write-off. Dave in the AR1 set a new BRITISH record with a 70.60, but it didn't last long before Ken trounced him with a 75.04. Which puts BRITAIN ahead of Italy - since Andrea only managed a 72.19 tonight - and Australia (not playing this year). Some of the Scousers would have been bouncing off the walls while still out in the desert if there were any but Dave and Ken both just told me they're too knackered to party any more. Top work by the whole team to get the bike back together and running with the big boys. My grate frend Jan-Marcel only managed a 76.49 tonight (cramp with two miles still to go) but still bagged third overall behind Todd and Damjan. Erika says this is his fifth third place in six years. No photos from this evening uploaded yet coz I'm going to bed. P.S. The tyres they tried this morning were Kojaks.
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 1:32pm
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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 5:00pm
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That is a great effort from the Liverpool team. A real credit to them on their first effort. Well done to Dave and Ken they definitely earned their 70 mph hats. |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 3:35am
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Saturday pictures now uploaded to http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157656502428574" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157656502428574 These are squished-down 1024x768 versions of the real thing because puny hotel internets but the full-fat versions are available on receipt of a nicely-worded begging letter. Priority will be given to begging letters written on the back of a one hundred dollar bill. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 3:24pm
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Here is a vid of the first record breaking run for Aerovelo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33clAZoaLWs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33clAZoaLWs , and who is the hansome bearded and ponytailed gentleman taking todds photo he looks so !
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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 28 September 2015 at 6:39pm
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There have been some Arion1 Battle Mountain videos released here: They are quite interesting. |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 28 September 2015 at 10:08pm
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Some links to various video channels on YouTube: University of Liverpool Arion project: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QRmx49bS8trJEGEljP9Fw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QRmx49bS8trJEGEljP9Fw Ken Buckley: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-VAYFL7NZDDbaenp9qqIg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-VAYFL7NZDDbaenp9qqIg and Aerovelo: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaaBYl_LnxAecUOgfVTQHvg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaaBYl_LnxAecUOgfVTQHvg (sort by 'uploads') this is my favourite - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrBVf3gGbuo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrBVf3gGbuo - real pride evident from the whole Liverpool team |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 12:09pm
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I discovered yesterday that any claims Messrs Collins and Buckley have on the BRITISH national record may be a bit previous, as Trefor Evans did 76.8 mph in 2013 inside Bluenose, and he has dual nationality. Sorry chaps. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 12:45am
| Really?! |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 6:44pm
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The Toronto team web site is claiming a BRITISH record and Prof Nogami says Trefor has dual nationality, so, er, yes... ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: hotta
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 8:50pm
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That's fine ,but why leave it so late to put that claim in now ,and not say anything to the arion team at the time? ------------- never stop it hurts less in the end |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 8:53pm
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Under the IHPVA rules applications can only be made up to 30 days after the event so I don't think they can claim the record now?? http://www.ihpva.org/rules.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.ihpva.org/rules.htm ------------- |
Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 9:50pm
| Could split it down the middle (38.4 mph each) so both nations get a fair share??? |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 29 January 2016 at 9:33am
I suspect that applies only to outright records; AFAIK the only mechanism for claiming national ones is word of mouth (or possibly Statto Mowett). ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
AlanGoodman wrote:Posted By: bobcolover
Date Posted: 30 March 2016 at 9:39pm
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this is on at the brixton ritzy this friday with graham obree in a q and a session the battle mountain film https://www.picturehouses.com/cinema/Ritzy_Picturehouse/film/battle-mountain-graeme-obrees-story-plus-qanda?image=1&_m_utk=6b3798a75136445e01257db575146282 see you there? bob c |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 31 March 2016 at 12:08pm
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Tempting, that is, and not just coz it might have Meeeeeee in it. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: bobcolover
Date Posted: 31 March 2016 at 6:36pm
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will look out for you; bob |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 01 April 2016 at 11:45pm
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Just back in from seeing this ^^^^ and dead good it was too. And not just because Jonathan and I both appear at least twice. Had a nice chat with the star and Charlie The Manager afterwards. Go and see it if you get the chance. ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |