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Topic: 2015 Battle Mountain
Posted By: russellbridge
Subject: 2015 Battle Mountain
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 10:13pm
Battle Mountain starts tomorrow - with the Liverpool uni ARION machine who've successfully made it out there judging by their recent facebook photos...
https://www.facebook.com/ulvteam" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/ulvteam
Are there any blogs/websites going covering results for each day?
Russ

edit:
I've found Mr Larrington's most excellent Automatic Diary:  http://automatic-diary.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://automatic-diary.blogspot.co.uk/
and his photos:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/
and Jun Nogami's blog:  https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/



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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 10:50pm
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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 14 September 2015 at 9:25pm
Monday Qualifying Run
 
http://www.ligfiets.net/news/5056/battle-mountain-2015-de-keuring-en-meeting.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.ligfiets.net/news/5056/battle-mountain-2015-de-keuring-en-meeting.html
 
From Google translate:
 
"Early in the morning we are working. The members of the ULV set off for testing. Because a few falls Arion one is quite damaged. They need to work to sand".
 
What will define this team is how they recover from setbacks. Keeping all fingers and toes crossed for them.
 
It looks like Delft had some damage to their Velox V machine.
 
But this link sounds more positive and no mention of a fall or damage to Arion1
 
https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/category/hpv/

"The weather looked positively evil at 6 am at the Super 8, and there was a big green blog approaching from the south on the radar, but we all headed out to the course just in case. It turned out to be a very busy morning of qualifying runs on the 2.5 mile course, although most of the runs were not wind legal.

Liverpool’s bike Arion1 looked great in its fancy livery. Ken went 58 mph, and Dave went 51 mph.

Natasha has had problems riding it, so she has elected to race an unfaired M5".
https://jnyyz.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc01981.jpg" rel="nofollow -   https://jnyyz.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc01929.jpg" rel="nofollow -
Note: Edited above
Legs Larry's blog seems to echo the 2nd post.
 


Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 14 September 2015 at 10:31pm
There's some photos here:  http://s1024.photobucket.com/user/russellbridge/library/2015-09%20ARION" rel="nofollow - http://s1024.photobucket.com/user/russellbridge/library/2015-09%20ARION  of the ARION bike from the launch at Liverpool University 1st Sept.

(ps in one of the photos Andrew isn't dancing the twist, he's wearing an Oculus Rift VR headset looking at the underneath of a virtual 3D model of ARION Smile)



Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 9:03am
Looks like very superficial damage that has not even gone through the vinyl sticker here:
 
https://jnyyz.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc01929.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dsc01929.jpg
 
Weather does not sound great for the Tues run.
 


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:09pm
Monday night was called off as even the most nails rider[1] finds it difficult to cope with a gale-impelled sandstorm.  Tuesday am was bit blowy still and a lot cooler than Monday morning; Ellen van Vugt bagged a women's multi-track WR on the short course in Garrie Hill's CO2 (a replica of the former trike record holder Completely Overzealous).  Dave Collins ran for the Scousers but dropped a chain and coasted through at 39 mph; the scrapes on the fairing are from practice mishaps, mostly Natasha failing to balance it.  Todd Reichert in Eta was well over 81 mph but not with a legal wind.

Velox V didn't appear this morning even though the bike had been pronounced fit and healthy by tech inspector George Gently Leone.  Which means they can't run tonight either as neither Robert nor Lieske has done a qualifying run.  They've got two fairings and may be running the plain white backup one tomorrow while they patch up the damage to the Shiny one.

I'm loosely affiliated with Team Cygnus this year as Thomas van Schaik has recently relocated to China to work as a Western Half-Devil, or possibly a Monster Face.
Have you seen these people?
"Our" boy Jan-Marcel van Dijken has had two qualifying runs and dropped a chain on both.  Not the same chain either.  But he did a 76 on the long course and seems happy with progress so far.

BHPC is well-represented with Sherri joining Jonathan and me yesterday after holing up in Tonopah on Sunday night because of the 'orrible weather.  Peering out of the window, it looks to be brightening up so hopefully tonight will bring some better fortune.

The car park is awash with tool-wielding apes putting together the Seiran (at least I think that's what it's called) for local gal Teagan Patterson.  Bike designed and built by Mark Anderson and Eric Ware of Wedge fame in Minnesota; much of it nicked from the trailer Saturday night in Salt Lake City, but subsequently recovered, along with quite a quantity of other people's property and some very thick crims, from a stolen car by the SLC rozzers.  Mark's not happy unless he's got stuff to take apart and put back together anyway.  You hear that, Mr. Anderson?  That is the sound of inevitability.

1: Damjan Zabovnik


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:19pm
Many thanks Dave!!

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:21pm
By the way Natasha is now aiming to break the unfaired record as well as nicking the British ladies record from Claire, all on her M5 Highracer. 

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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 11:48pm
Bah! What is Claire's record? Was that set at Bruntingthorpe?

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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 4:29am
Best I could find for Claire was the 39.something at Bentwaters.

Evening session rained out.  Bah encore!


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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 8:28am
Sorry, meant Bentwaters Embarrassed

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 1:07pm
Yep - The record for an unfaired machine (set on a velodrome) is apparently 33.554 for ladies and 39.244 for men, so 40MPH would pick up lots of records...
http://www.recumbents.com/wrra/records.asp" rel="nofollow - http://www.recumbents.com/wrra/records.asp
 
There is a lot of room for improvement on her current machine as well which has no wheel covers, cables all over the place and is still sporting a mirror as it was really for training on...
 
 


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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 16 September 2015 at 2:05pm
No runs Wednesday morning as it is raining, has been raining all night and is showing no signs of being not raining for the next Several of hours.  Meeting at 11:00 (19:00 in BRITAIN) to establish running orders and have a good moan.  I don't understand these people - the forecast looked great when we decided on the dates a year ago Tongue

Actually, we couldn't have held the event last week as Monday the 7th was a bank holibob in USAnia (and Canada, come to that).


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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 6:13am
None too warm this evening but the wind was better than expected.  Todd Reichert nevertheless decided not to run and may well be kicking himself now.  The teams asked us to push back the runs as late as possible which proved to be something of a curate's egg.  We ran three heats and none of the four riders in the last heat had a legal wind speed, which is the opposite of what usually happens.  Things didn't go brilliantly for the Liverpool team; Dave Collins had a skipping chain and got 60.57 mph while Ken Buckley had camera issues and trundled through at 31.64 with Lieske Yntema in Velox V close behind.  This made life in catch somewhat interesting, but both teams have a plentiful supply of Penniless Student Oaves so no-one had to ride back to town in the dark.  Top speed of the night was my man Jan-Marcel van Dijken in Cygnus Chronos, with a fully-legal 75.31, which means he won't go out tomorrow morning, which in turn means I can do other Stuffs.

Pictures from this evening at http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/albums/72157658293144988%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/albums/72157658293144988 once they've finished uploading; full results will be on Jun Nogami's blog at http://jnyyz.wordpress.com/%20" rel="nofollow - https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/ once he's had his dinner.


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 9:45am
Bah!
What do you think should be a realistic target for Arion 1 in their first year?


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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 9:38pm
World record broken:
Tod Reichert on Eta at 85.71 mph
 
Ken Buckley on Arion1 does 69.73


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 10:22pm
That's a new British record for Ken as well....
 
85MPH is absolutely awesome. Clap


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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 10:29pm
Soz, I was having me lunch...  Pretty good conditions this morning - not as cold as it often gets and it had rained overnight so more humid than usual.  The consensus here was that if conditions were right Todd would hammer the world record.  They were and he did.  And IIRC he's having another run tonight (boggles).



New BRITISH record for Ken Buckley at 69.73 mph plus a world 600/200m mark of 21.95 mph for Liz McTernan's unfaired handcycle.  And for completeness, a new Italian national record of 68.32 mph for Andrea Gallo in the Turin Polytechnic machine PulsaR.  I was in the catch area so my pictures are all dead dull but they're at  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157658332736699" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157658332736699


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 September 2015 at 10:32pm
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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 7:02am
Ken decked the ARION1 at about 55 mph this evening two miles from timing.  He's OK; I haven't seen the bike but it was too badly damaged to allow Dave to run it later in the session and Boss Scouser Pat gave the impression that it's not pretty.  Ellen upped her own trike record to 54.45 mph, Damjan got a legal 79.16 and Todd's 82.29 had everyone saying "meh".

My man Jan-Marcel had an off day and went over a Several of times at launch before running out of time for further attempts.  Bondo and sandpaper for breakfast, lads Ouch


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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 9:16pm
A tanker-load of midnight oil later and the Scousers were back on the road this morning, albeit with a slightly scruffy machine.  Dave did a 62 and Ken a cautious and wind-affected 40-something.  Further wrecks for Bluenose and Velox V though chiz.  Nothing really special this morning but the big kids are all running tonight and the weather is looking much better than it has of late.

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Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 11:48pm
Good luck lads, well done for getting it back on the road. Let's have a 70!


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 6:31am
Much warmer this evening and the wind was friendly enough that everyone who completed the course did so with a legal wind speed.  Dave made a solid run in AR1 but Ken went on the side of caution and pulled up mid-course - a flawless catch by the crew.  They are celebrating by heading back out into the desert to nick the wheels off Mark Mueller's MX5[1] which, after a bit of over-enthusiastic dirt-road hooning, is in a ditch with two fewer working tyres than it had this morning.

Communications problems meant the third of the evening heats was later than we'd hoped so neither Damjan nor Jan-Marcel got their hoped-for 80 mph hats; Ellen had a good run with a 69.  Earlier Andrea went over 70 to increase his Italian record and, chiz curses, put it higher than Ken's BRITISH one from earlier in the week.

First run of all tonight was that pesky Reichert fellow, who only went and banged the world record out to a scarcely believable 86.50 mph, or 139.18 km/h if you prefer.  The bike has a design speed of 140 km/h, there's still one evening to go and the weather forecast for tomorrow is for even better weather.

1: Lie.


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 6:42am
Bloody hell. 
That's a giant leap for mankind... 


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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 8:14am
Herewith Mr Reichert receiving the congratulations of my chums at Team Cygnus:

Can you tell what it is yet?

I keep seeing the shiny-headed twit in photos this year Ying Yang


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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 9:50am
Dave went 64.47 mph
Ken had a mechanical according to the spreadsheet on Jun's blog
 
Come on guys - fingers and toes crossed for you.


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 10:41pm
60.10 for Dave and 63.26 for Ken this morning.  They changed the tyres last night; both riders said the handling was better with the new ones and please can they have the ones with lower rolling resistance back for tonight.

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Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 8:06am
A great final session by the looks of it.
Dave does 70mph in Arion
Ken does 75mph in Arion
World record further pushed to 86.65mph in Eta!



Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 8:07am
Wow!!

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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 8:28am
Just back in from the final evening runs and the awards bash.  Todd edged his world record out to 86.65 mph and Damjan finally got his 80 mph hat with an 80.01.  And then crashed Eivie 4.2 in what was apparently a deeply spectacular way.  He's OK but the bike is almost certainly a write-off.

Dave in the AR1 set a new BRITISH record with a 70.60, but it didn't last long before Ken trounced him with a 75.04.  Which puts BRITAIN ahead of Italy - since Andrea only managed a 72.19 tonight - and Australia (not playing this year).  Some of the Scousers would have been bouncing off the walls while still out in the desert if there were any but Dave and Ken both just told me they're too knackered to party any more.  Top work by the whole team to get the bike back together and running with the big boys.

My grate frend Jan-Marcel only managed a 76.49 tonight (cramp with two miles still to go) but still bagged third overall behind Todd and Damjan.  Erika says this is his fifth third place in six years.

No photos from this evening uploaded yet coz I'm going to bed.

P.S. The tyres they tried this morning were Kojaks.


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 1:32pm
Thumbs Up

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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 5:00pm
That is a great effort from the Liverpool team. A real credit to them on their first effort.
 
Well done to Dave and Ken they definitely earned their 70 mph hats.
 
 


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 3:35am
Saturday pictures now uploaded to  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157656502428574" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/sets/72157656502428574   These are squished-down 1024x768 versions of the real thing because puny hotel internets but the full-fat versions are available on receipt of a nicely-worded begging letter.  Priority will be given to begging letters written on the back of a one hundred dollar bill.

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Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 3:24pm
Here is a vid of the first record breaking run for Aerovelo  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33clAZoaLWs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33clAZoaLWs  , and who is the hansome bearded and ponytailed gentleman taking todds photo he looks so !

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Posted By: atlas_shrugged
Date Posted: 28 September 2015 at 6:39pm
There have been some Arion1 Battle Mountain videos released here:
 
https://www.facebook.com/ulvteam" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/ulvteam
 
They are quite interesting.
 
 


Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 28 September 2015 at 10:08pm
Some links to various video channels on YouTube:

University of Liverpool Arion project:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QRmx49bS8trJEGEljP9Fw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QRmx49bS8trJEGEljP9Fw

Ken Buckley:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-VAYFL7NZDDbaenp9qqIg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-VAYFL7NZDDbaenp9qqIg

and Aerovelo:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaaBYl_LnxAecUOgfVTQHvg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaaBYl_LnxAecUOgfVTQHvg
(sort by 'uploads')

this is my favourite -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrBVf3gGbuo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrBVf3gGbuo  - real pride evident from the whole Liverpool team Clap



Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 12:09pm
I discovered yesterday that any claims Messrs Collins and Buckley have on the BRITISH national record may be a bit previous, as Trefor Evans did 76.8 mph in 2013 inside Bluenose, and he has dual nationality.

Sorry chaps.

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Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 12:45am
Really?!


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 6:44pm
The Toronto team web site is claiming a BRITISH record and Prof Nogami says Trefor has dual nationality, so, er, yes...

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Posted By: hotta
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 8:50pm
That's fine ,but why leave it so late to put that claim in now ,and not say anything to the arion team at the time?

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 8:53pm
Under the IHPVA rules applications can only be made up to 30 days after the event so I don't think they can claim the record now?? http://www.ihpva.org/rules.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.ihpva.org/rules.htm

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Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 9:50pm
Could split it down the middle (38.4 mph each) so both nations get a fair share??? 


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 29 January 2016 at 9:33am
Originally posted by AlanGoodman AlanGoodman wrote:


Under the IHPVA rules applications can only be made up to 30 days after the event so I don't think they can claim the record now?? http://www.ihpva.org/rules.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.ihpva.org/rules.htm


I suspect that applies only to outright records; AFAIK the only mechanism for claiming national ones is word of mouth (or possibly Statto Mowett).

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Posted By: bobcolover
Date Posted: 30 March 2016 at 9:39pm
this is on at the brixton ritzy this friday with graham obree in a q and a session
the battle mountain film

https://www.picturehouses.com/cinema/Ritzy_Picturehouse/film/battle-mountain-graeme-obrees-story-plus-qanda?image=1&_m_utk=6b3798a75136445e01257db575146282

see you there?
bob c



Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 31 March 2016 at 12:08pm
Tempting, that is, and not just coz it might have Meeeeeee in it.

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Posted By: bobcolover
Date Posted: 31 March 2016 at 6:36pm
will look out for you;
bob
Smile


Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 01 April 2016 at 11:45pm
Just back in from seeing this ^^^^ and dead good it was too. And not just because Jonathan and I both appear at least twice. Had a nice chat with the star and Charlie The Manager afterwards. Go and see it if you get the chance.

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