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Topic: Shrewsbury
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Subject: Shrewsbury
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 2:22pm
To the best of my knowledge and notes nobody has so far offered to Organisate at Shrewsbury.
 
Any offers?


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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 6:55pm
OK then go on.......
 
it be my local!!!!
 
regards
Graydog


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 6:56pm
ps it will be bias, DFsEvil Smile
 
like 200m standing starts............LOL
 
 


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 7:41pm
thought I'd offered ages ago in the original calendar thread, but more than happy to let Graham do it. :D
can assist if wanted, I am intending to race.


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 8:14pm
no no please if you have offered I don't wish to step on your toes Clown
We can really make it a DF bias race Evil Smile
I am racing too, no don't about that.
 
graydog
 
 


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 10:12am
 200m standing starts suit me fine, but I thought from the amount of whinging about the little bend, the track at shrewsbury favoured Dfs enough anyway..


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 2:48pm
Ar Yes but more Favourable is better...............Evil Smile
 
so standard 40min +1 lap
 
and........
100/200m standing spirt
or
1 lap tt wrong way round (wrong being opposite to what we do)
or
5 lap tt
or
the devil
or
two lane drag race 100m (give the bents a chance)
or
what would you like to do?
 
it is a short track with a few bends, not ideal for tts.
 
regards
graydog


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 3:26pm
The track could suit a devil - like Lancaster, people can be pulled off every half-lap if one a lap would give too long a race.
 
Nothing wrong with a TT with BENDS.  I'd like to have a spin round the track the "wrong way" to assess the riskiness before saying it would be definitely OK.  A multi-lap TT would be fine but would have to be the "usual way" because a few riders could be out at once and the risk of cross-over collisions would still be there.
 
I never saw the point of short-distance drags for HPVs - they don't show off our advantages.  I'm starting to sound like Mike Burrows so I'll shut up!


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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 4:10pm
If you are going to do 200m sprints (or whatever) you need to think carefully about how you are going to implement it.  

You will either have to do it all manually, or have a chat with Jonathan on how you could use his sprint system.

As for a TT Lap idea, then you should be able to utilise the existing Tag  system to do it.  

Perhaps we should produce a 'pick' list of race choices that we can run via which systems (and instructions on how) to allow people to chose the right race format.



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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 9:29pm
the single lap may work best.
I quite like going "the wrong way around", for a TT I can't really see an issue, it's if there's a few riders diving into the hairpin at the same time that could be a problem. 
Of course it does mean the back straight becomes a long draggy climb. 


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 9:04pm
Here's my vid of the circuit taken some time ago, showing both ways.
looking at it I reckon the main issue with going clockwise is that someone could overcook the bottom corner approaching the hairpin, at 30 seconds into the vid, and end up coming into oncoming traffic. 
but it's no worse than curborough in that respect, and I guess we could put a couple of cones out to mark that section better. 






Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 9:10pm
It is all a bit spooky in the fog!

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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:02pm
wow spooky double post.. 


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by fards fards wrote:

[QUOTE=Rob]It is all a bit spooky in the fog!


 It's shrewsbury,  there's all that water everywhere! 
At least they built the track a bit higher above the floodplain than most of the town LOL


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:26am
Has there been a decision on what the additional race to the 40 Minute + 1 lap will be??
 
 


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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:35am


l like the idea of a sprint on the back straight or one lap tt the wrong way round.
But the "devil", sounds like the best option!!!!



Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:43am
I think Ian was proposing a 1 lap race the wrong way around (so the timing system could be used)



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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 12:22pm

yeah sorry, 

if we want it as a shared points then a reverse 1 lap TT would be best. 

If you just want a fun race and let the points come from the main race then a Devil is possible, personally I prefer the TT option. 



Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 1:29pm
Given AS's comments; we need to think carefully about the tt wrong way round, due to how some bikes are set up for AC racing. He also suggest the track would be ok for the devil, no need for it to be a fun raceEvil Smile....
 
regards
g


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 2:15pm
If it was a TT then it could be wither way round (depending on danger) but could still use the timing loop.  Need to make sure people start a couple of metres behind the line, to avoid falsely setting it off (similarly you should start the main race behind the line by a metre or two as well.

If it is a devil then presumably non points - so do what you want


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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:15pm
So which way is the wrong way round ? clockwise or anticlockwise


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:23pm
AC


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:25pm
No if it was the devil, it be for points as we have done before.
 
yes the tt could be the other way round, we'd have to watch crowding so perhaps limit it to groups of 10-15 on track or waiting at any time.
 
what i really want: cold beer and hot pizza......
 
40 Minute + 1 lap with a sprit lap(off the bell) at 10mins, 20mins, 30mins. first past the post gets extra 50 points each bell.
 
devil for points
 
point split 60:40   thus making the devil worth while.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by graydog graydog wrote:

AC
 
In that case make the devil clockwise, with the bottom cut through optional - should help vehicles that can handle the turns Evil Smile
 
Neil 


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by Greydog Greydog wrote:

No if it was the devil, it be for points as we have done before.
 
yes the tt could be the other way round, we'd have to watch crowding so perhaps limit it to groups of 10-15 on track or waiting at any time.
 
what i really want: cold beer and hot pizza......
 
40 Minute + 1 lap with a sprit lap(off the bell) at 10mins, 20mins, 30mins. first past the post gets extra 50 points each bell.
 
devil for points
 
point split 60:40   thus making the devil worth while.
Don;t think it is quite that easy. You would have to think of a way in getting it into the signing on software to be able to process it.  That means you would have to think of a way of making it seem like a race, otherwise it won't work.


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 4:21pm
I like the idea of a Devil as well - they are always good fun...
 
BHPC usually run ACW... Pedal cars usually run CW...
 
I much prefer CW...
 
As for the one lap sprints, I don't see how that would work if the event is likely to be split into fast/slow races as usual... First past the post in the slow race could end up with a lot more points than somebody much quicker in the fast race.
 
Sounds too complicated and likely to cause arguments to me...
 


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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:40pm
'Sounds too complicated and likely to cause arguments to me...'
 
spice of life......... 
well if someone in the slow race get more points then someone in the fast c'est la course, it is the race!!!!
 
is should make the race more livly, and is common in other race series. But if we can do it Censored
 
 
 


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 8:53pm
quite happy for the devil to be a contributor towards the total points for the day as long as some one else takes over the organising and calculating! 
The computer stuff isn't set up for that, and I really have no intention of doing it! the system is perfectly set up for a TT/normal race so if you want two points races then it's that or nothing from me I'm afraid.
If the devil is supposed to be fun, then leave it as such, a fun race and have the long race as the points one. 

I can't see the bike setup argument is a justification for not going Clockwise, since when did we start having races based around what a particular bike can cope with? 
surely the entire point is to have bikes that can cope with circuits we race on, rather than the other way around?  sounds like Mike and his anti- going up a small hill argument to me ...
Shrewsbury doesn't favour streamliners (either way around) does that mean we shouldn't race there, or is it a good venue because it gives other riders a chance for a change? 

the idea of having a sprint in the middle, end or whatever of an ongoing race is not something I want to take part in or organise.


Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by fards fards wrote:


I can't see the bike setup argument is a justification for not going Clockwise, since when did we start having races based around what a particular bike can cope with? 
surely the entire point is to have bikes that can cope with circuits we race on, rather than the other way around?  sounds like Mike and his anti- going up a small hill argument to me ...
Shrewsbury doesn't favour streamliners (either way around) does that mean we shouldn't race there, or is it a good venue because it gives other riders a chance for a change? 
 
Clap So let use the bottom cut through as well - even up the multitrack divide Tongue
 


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:36pm
Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Neil F
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 8:34am
The problem with going CW and using the whole track is what happens with a rider going downhill through the esses and into the bottom corner (30secs into the video)? If they get it wrong they cross 18 inches of grass and at then heading into the face of riders comming out of the hairpin going the opposite direction. Remember that the streamliners go much faster than the pedalcars and our unfaired riders have much less protection.

Going ACW the risk point is at the hairpin. Here the risk is overcooking/losing it on the brakes and going into the fence or decking on the corner. Both of these would happen at relatively low speed. Anyone going into the braking area at speed is likely to be a streamliner and so have at least some degree of protection should the worst happen.

So on safety grounds I thnik that ACW is the only sensible option if there are riders strung out along the track. If it's a solo TT or a Devil (Bunch) then IMHO CW is feasible.

If anoyone has a contrary opinion then please post it here.

Neil


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 9:08am
Originally posted by Fards Fards wrote:

quite happy for the devil to be a contributor towards the total points for the day as long as some one else takes over the organising and calculating!
 
 And just for the record, it is not just for this race you will have to do the calculation, but since the whole season results is built on the same program, the likelyhood is that you will have to hand calculate the total for every race forward (or adapt the software, and I am not doing that at the moment)


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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 11:18am
I think the main reason for pedal cars going anti - clockwise is that it is the most fun.
 
Otherwise the downhill reverse curves become uphill reverse curves and don't have the same effect.


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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 11:20am
Originally posted by jes@gcre jes@gcre wrote:

I think the main reason for pedal cars going anti - clockwise is that it is the most fun.
 
Otherwise the downhill reverse curves become uphill reverse curves and don't have the same effect.
We were going clockwise - must be where we went wrong LOL


Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 11:26am
Do we?
 
Whichever way is down hill through the curves then.


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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 11:37am
Originally posted by Neil F Neil F wrote:

The problem with going CW and using the whole track is what happens with a rider going downhill through the esses and into the bottom corner (30secs into the video)? If they get it wrong they cross 18 inches of grass and at then heading into the face of riders comming out of the hairpin going the opposite direction. Remember that the streamliners go much faster than the pedalcars and our unfaired riders have much less protection.

Going ACW the risk point is at the hairpin. Here the risk is overcooking/losing it on the brakes and going into the fence or decking on the corner. Both of these would happen at relatively low speed. Anyone going into the braking area at speed is likely to be a streamliner and so have at least some degree of protection should the worst happen.

So on safety grounds I thnik that ACW is the only sensible option if there are riders strung out along the track. If it's a solo TT or a Devil (Bunch) then IMHO CW is feasible.

If anoyone has a contrary opinion then please post it here.

Neil

yup that's why I think (but obviously we can take a closer look at the track on Sunday to make sure CW is safe enough for the TT)

that we'll do the standard 40+1 ACW and a one lap TT (+ a couple of metres to get past the sensor) Clockwise, with The TT run first 

Then if any one has any energy left afterwards we can do some fun devils, personally I think I'm going to be saving my energy for the climb home in the late afternoon thunderstorms that are currently forecast Confused

so plan of attack so far is to have signing on from 10:00
 TT start at 11:00 and the two 40min races after that, exact start timing dependent on numbers doing the TT.. 

Does that sound okay to all? 



Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 1:31pm

It might be a mild problem for me, I'm getting the train down from Chester which won't get into Shrewsbury until 11.01. It'll take about 10 mins at most to get to the track so I'll not be much later.

Any chance of registering at about 11.15 and then still making it for the TT? Maybe a later TT start of 11.30 - 12.00?



Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 1:45pm
Even if it starts bang on 11.00 (in past experience, unlikely), the TT will still be in progress by 11.30, I would expect.
 
Apologies for my lack of contribution over recent days - I've been away for most of that time.  On the subject of which way round to race, I'd be very unhappy with a mass-start race running clockwise, because of the risk of cross-over collisions as NeilF describes.  A single-lap TT might well be OK clockwise - but we'll have to be clear in which direction riders practicing the course beforehand should be going...
 


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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 22 May 2010 at 3:21pm
a quick warning for anyone coming down from the north/east.. 

there's a carboot sale on the a460  just south of m6 J11 again, 
http://goo.gl/NUcP - http://goo.gl/NUcP
so it's best not to use that stretch of road, unless you want to spend an hour queuing with a load of S**t shovellers
 
if you're coming down the m6 then I'd get off at j12 and go a5/a449/m54 

if you're coming from the east/nottingham direction then it's probably much quicker that way as well,
however you can cut quite a chunk of time off using vicarage Road or the straight mile as seen here.
  http://goo.gl/XmI2 - http://goo.gl/XmI2

hth


Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 6:45pm
Back now.
Blisteringly hot.
Good time trial and good slow race. If only I could have stayed with our train of 4, we were smoking! (well in my eyes, lol)
Congratulations to the organisation team.

Any news on our faller? Hoping for a speedy recovery.


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 6:50pm
Just got back here as well...
Many thanks to all the organisers and helpers, and to the weather... Thumbs Up
 
An unfortunate end to a very nice day - very best wishes to Andy... Ouch   Hope you are ok...


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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 7:12pm
Thanks to Everyone Who helped out, there were quite a few, Conscripts and volunteers Both!
bigThanks to Neil H for lift home, don't thinkthe bulge in the tyre would have lasted.

hope to hear something positive concerning andy soon..


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 7:32pm
Adding my thanks to Fards for organisating and everyone else who helped out

Hoping for good news about Andy


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Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 7:46pm
My thanks to Fards 'n Crew too.
 
Heres hoping for good news about Andy......
 
Alan
 
Windcheetah Hypersport #833
'Expectant' with Sunrider


Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 8:17pm

Finally dragged myself back in now, tired but thoroughly enjoyed today.

Thanks to everyone who organised and also for putting up with my newbie questioning and general hovering.

Cheers for letting me try the Glyde Fards, wasn't what I expected but I imagine the massive vibration from the egg shaped tyre might not have helped!



Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 8:31pm
Good to hear the good news from Barney about Andy.

I inadvertently picked up a SiS measuring bottle from the trackside. Please let me know if you think it's yours and it will be returned at some convenient point.


Posted By: ND4E
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 10:58pm
Just incase you don't read the 'Andy Forrey' thread I'm back home now and feeling fine. Shoulder a bit saw so will rest it for a few weeks before racing again. Think I'll go to worlds as  spectator/marshall. Interesting to read the concerns earlier in this thread as I seem to have crashed going down the straight! I have no recollection so if anyone riding behind can enlighten me? I assume I went onto the grass and lost control. I in't start to think clearly til  was in the ambulance.      
       A big thank you to all those that helped me and well wishes I am deeply touched, you are all so very kind.
 
Andy


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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 11:02pm
Neil Hood said he was just behind you and that you looked behind you and then seemed to loose control of the bike. He didn't mention you going off the track to me.

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 11:36pm
A couple of people said that you seemed to look either behind and/or down before losing control... A problem with the bike maybe?

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Posted By: ND4E
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 1:57am
How wierd I thought I'd remembered going onto the grass. Must have been earlier in the race or another race I was remembering. Gerry took my bike home as it doesn't fit in the car without the hood down and he didn't want to leave it in the hospital car park like that. He didn't mention any obvious faults will have to do an autopsy on it when I pick it up. Maybe my hand slipped off the bars or I blacked out I really can't explain it. Will let you know if I find a fault with the bike.

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Posted By: Yanto63
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 7:25am
Andy, just to confirm what Neil said, " you appeared to look behind and fell over" (not exact words).

Definately get a trike! I have more fun riding it than i did with a bike!

Ian

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:03am
if it helps:
 
bike was off side down at about 90deg facing into the track, rear wheel few feet from inside track edge. No obviouse slide/ grase/ or other marks on the track.
 
It is almost like you just lay down on the track, so you off track memory could be ture.....
 
now your ok, so Ermm hows the bikeClown 
 
gd
 
 
 


Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:35am
Hi all
had a great day thanks to all the folks that made it happen only watching this time hope to be well enough to ride again soon and good news andy is ok look forward to more of the same thanks.
Jeff. (speedmachine).


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Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:44am

I've had a quick look at the bike. The support for the fairing that bolts onto the seat tube has worn through and damaged the fairing and another scuff mark further forward, basically less damage than Andy substained. The wheels brakes steering all seem fine. The only oddity I can see is the curbside bottom bracket cup looks like it has come unscrewed only stopping when it touched the crank. Oddly there is no play here, but the cup and crank are definately making contact.



Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 5:37pm
Andrew has now made the video available for download...
He has asked me to post the following (Many thanks Andrew)...

The video of race 2 is available for download from:

 

Host:             ftp://ftp.bhpva.org/ - ftp.bhpva.org

File:              /Racing/2010/Shrewsbury/Race2.MPG

Username:     ‘download’

Password:     ‘download’

 

or URL:         ftp://download:download@ftp.bhpva.org/Racing/2010/Shrewsbury/Race2.MPG - ftp://download:download@ftp.bhpva.org/Racing/2010/Shrewsbury/Race2.MPG

 

I’ve compressed the file down to around 650MB – any more and it becomes a bit unwatchable. My apologies for the ‘watermark’ in the centre of the screen from the conversion software – next time I’ll pay for it!

 

AndrewS



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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 6:46pm
Doing my best to make up process the results.
What ratio is the points for the TT to  main race (usual 20% / 80%)

I have some things to work out on the results - I know about
 1. Nicki Sidwell doesn't have a time trial time
 2. I think Jeff Humm has some laps missing

But start shouting about mistakes and I will see what I can do (remember also I WASN'T THERE)

http://www.loosethreads.co.uk/bhpc/shrewsbury10.html - Results



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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 7:14pm

Thanks Kevin! Thumbs Up

Only thing that leaps out is that Graydog was on a Ratracer not his TT bike...


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Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 7:43pm

The results look pretty solid to me, apart from Greydog being on the Ratracer as mentioned. Thanks for processing them Kevin!

I don't suppose anybody has uploaded pictures from the racing? I spotted quite a few people with cameras around the course, it'd be quite interesting to look at everybody riding through the hairpin at least.



Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 7:47pm
tis ture O/P for me, last min change to my ride.......
 
almost had mr Goodwin back before the last line, think I got him on the turn..............
 
regards
G
 
 
 


Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 7:54pm

I was slowing indeed GD, I had a rather ominous noise coming from the front tyre when taking the two main left handers. I had visions of the tyre suddenly letting go so I thought prudence was the best course of action.

Managed to nurse that tyre for 22 miles on the way home, it finally let go on the exit of a roundabout a mile from home.

I'll happily have a rematch at Lancaster/Preston though!



Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 8:09pm
Rematch......START TRAINING Evil Smile..........
not been on a proper bent for a while the odd 100 here and 60 there on the DF, but other then the pedal car a few weeks ago and a few very short rides in K3, nothing since last season.......
Got hit by a cramp about 5laps and pulled off the train that you where in. glad to write I was bringing it back on your heels (with the help of CK).
 
good to meet you and see another keen rider....... fair play (O and you can get DQed for training)
 
regards
GD
 
ps thanks for the results and video feed great to be out on a bent againApprove 


Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 8:24pm

Twas good to meet you and the others too GD, just a shame I'll be waiting for nearly two months until I next race.

My 'training' generally consists of cycling a couple of miles to the pub or to buy some doughnuts. The only reason I'm cycling 115 miles to Coventry this Sunday is because I'm too cheap to take the train!Smile

I remember seeing you pull to the left as we hit the timing line, thought you might have had a mechanical issue at first.

I think if you're on the Ratracer again I might have to finally knock up some wheeldisks, I'll quite clearly be challenging Neil in the B&S after that. Obviously. LOL



Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 9:12pm
I shouldn't be O/mf/m just o/mf  which gives Ian 1000 points for the M class. 

Sorry that was my cockup entering data Embarrassed 

I blame the sun, the ride there, and anything else I can think of that sounds plausible 


Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 9:49pm
I'd say Jeff Humm should be 21 laps as he was about 3/4 lap ahead of me at the end, but crossed the plus one lap just behind me on the road (if that makes sense). So he should probably be on 21 laps.
I know I'm doing myself out of points, but I think me beating Jeff should be fair and square.  Wink
I'll get him next time.
Martin BG


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Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:19pm
Hi, would it be possible for me to have some points in the unfaired category.


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by Gerry Gerry wrote:

Hi, would it be possible for me to have some points in the unfaired category.
 
That doesn't sound unfair to me... Big smile


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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:43pm
4th in the TT!! Wowww! Over the moon Brian!

Shame about the proper race...


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 12:01am
Originally posted by GeoffBird GeoffBird wrote:

4th in the TT!! Wowww! Over the moon Brian!

Shame about the proper race...
 
It was all down to Graham's launch... My goodness that old boy can push!! Wink


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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 12:05am
Yeah, I was at the hairpin before I started pedalling Wink

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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 8:52am
I have updated the results for Gerry, Graham and Ian F.  Still the original 2 to resolve

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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 8:53am
There was a time I was known as Grayhound, this became the world known Graydog with the view one day it would prob be Olddog................... DON'T think that time has come yet, 'My goodness that old boy can push'Angry.....
 
well done on the tt to you GB.............. if you'd pedaled all the way you'd have taken the feild Clown
 


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 9:01am
Originally posted by KevinJ KevinJ wrote:

I have updated the results for Gerry, Graham and Ian F.  Still the original 2 to resolve
 
I don't think Nikki took part in the TT...
 
 


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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 9:06am
Can't find ANY times on the tag for the time trial for Nicki Sidwell.  The Tag seems to be working - did Nicki definitely take part in the time trial?

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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 9:07am
No, I'm pretty sure she didn't...

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 9:44am

Realised why I’ve got a slow time in the tt and race (other than being slow), it is the class slowness penalties still being applied…… I can tell as my class ident still has the ST/S label…………Shocked

 

Sorry KJ, I should just be O/P this race. I may tweak the rat to get the required lock for ST/S later ,but it really is just O/P Clownas much as I want to take the points out of GB and GC Ouch.

thanks GD


Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 10:13am
To confirm - Nikki didn't do thetime trial
 
Heather


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:04am
Thanks heather and Graham - already spotted the Sp/St problem and corrected.  And thanks Heather (and Andrew via email) for confirming about Nicki

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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 12:54pm
Okay processed most things - the pedal car (Darren)is down as Multitrack - which implies part faired - is that correct?  Thanks Neil - Updated!
http://www.loosethreads.co.uk/bhpc/shrewsbury10.html - Results
http://www.loosethreads.co.uk/bhpc/tables10.html - Final Results
Corrected a couple of incorrect cases in names as well



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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:02pm
Nope - definately Fully Faired


Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:11pm
Strictly to rules ....the girls should not have a unfaired classification.

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Never believe an atom they make up everything.


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:46pm
OK - just to be sure - is that just to part faired then or Hannah and Sarah

So specifically were they bagged?  If not, did they have a front AND rear fairing on?


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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 04 June 2010 at 9:56pm
Since I know everyone has been wrapped up in the Worlds.  I still need to know the answer to this for the Shrewsbury results
is that just to part faired then for Hannah and Sarah

So specifically were they bagged?  If not, did they have a front AND rear fairing on?  So which of Sport, street, part faired is applicable.


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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah



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