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Topic: 2009 Race Calendar (PROVISIONAL)
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Subject: 2009 Race Calendar (PROVISIONAL)
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 11:58am

See below for a PROVISIONAL list of dates and venues for next year.  Date and/or venue for any of the below (except Jersey) may yet change, so don't go booking your rail tickets just yet.  If you're having to book your holidays so as not to miss races, though,  this list will be more useful than nothing.  I'll post updates as and when details are formally confirmed, though the finalised list won't be complete until at least 15th November, because Hillingdon isn't processing bookings until then.  Until the finalised list is out, don't blame me if you make arrangements around a date or venue that subsequently changes.  Details in italics identify those least firmly-established.

Date                 Venue 
     
April 26             Castle Combe      
May 10              Hillingdon
May 23 or 24     Jersey (Keith Davis)      
June 13             Fowlmead I      
June 14             Fowlmead II      
July 11              Salt Ayre, Lancaster       
July 12              Preston Sports Arena      
July 26              Darley Moor      
August 9           Quibell Park, Scunthorpe      
August 22         Curborough
September 13    Hillingdon      
October 4          Redbridge (Hog Hill) + AGM 

To forestall a few likely queries:
  • Bentwaters became an unviable proposition after Ipswich CC decided that they didn't want to play with us.  On top of that, Bentwaters won't confirm a date until they have finalised dates for such as the recording of Dog Borstal, so you'd have been waiting much longer than this if I'd tried to include it. 
  • Some might baulk at the inclusion of Jersey, which I've made as a means of promoting that event.  (Conversely, I know some people are very keen to go.)  I'd simply point out that under the principle of championship points being accrued over two-thirds of events, rounded up, this means the 2009 season is on an 8-from-12 basis rather that the 8-from-11 that it would have been if I'd left out Jersey.  Details such as the format of racing are yet to be confirmed.  There should be more than one HPV race in a weekend of cycle racing, but this will count as one BHPC event, only.
  • The idea of the two-day Fowlmead meeting is to have different styles of racing on different circuits, whilst making one of the less accessible venues (for anyone further north or west than London) more worth the effort of getting to.
  • I did consider whether to leave out Darley Moor, after this year's mucking us about.  I thought it worth giving it another chance.
  • It's less than ideal that Lancaster/Preston immediately follows Cyclevision/Worlds 2009.  First choice for this weekend was early August, but that would have meant a long delay in publishing the calendar: Preston currently won't confirm any dates for August because they expect to be hosting a big f++tb+ll tournament.
  • I've managed to avoid clashes with BPCC, other than 10th May.  That's the only date  that makes sense, though as 26th April is the only date I could get for Castle Combe, Jersey is already fixed for Spring Bank Holiday, and I didn't want to schedule a race for the Sunday of the May Bank Holiday weekend.



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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 12:47pm
Ok, looks good
A few questions though?
What happened to Ixworth Criterium?

Thanks;

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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 4:37pm
Looks good to me!
 
Might actually get to some (Castle Combe and Curborough spring to mind)
 
The only other clash is the "New Milton Pedal Car Grand Prix" on July 12th but this race is not run by the BFCPR, is not part of the championship, and we have no say over it's date so no blame attached to either party there. 
 
BPCC calendar was OK'd by the AGM today and looks like this:
 
Sunday, April 5th - Shrewsbury 100 mile
 
Saturday, May 9th - Welsh 10 hour [day / night race] (Port Talbot)
 
June 27th - 28th - Shenington 24 hour (near Banbury)
 
Sunday, July 19th - Silverstone Sprints (1hr + 2 hrs + 3hrs)
 
Saturday, September 5th - Blackbushe Sprints (1hr + 2 hrs + 3hrs)
 
Sunday, September 6th - Blackbushe 5 hour
 
Saturday, September 26th - Curborough Sprints (1hr + 2 hrs + 3hrs) [day / night race]
 
 
All excellent news I think.
 
Luv, Jes x
 


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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by LeeW LeeW wrote:

What happened to Ixworth Criterium?


I didn't consider it, because I've never heard of it. 


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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 10:37pm
See http://www.bhpc.org.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2103&PID=21305 - http://www.bhpc.org.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2103&PID=21305
No date has been published for 2009 but the previous 2 events have been on the Mayday bank holiday Monday which in 2009 will be the 4/5/09 thus won't interfere with other events.

More info at the organisers website here:
http://www.westsuffolkwheelers.co.uk/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=194&Itemid=2 - http://www.westsuffolkwheelers.co.uk/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=194&Itemid=2

I'd really like to race on a town centre circuit, looks very exciting.
There will possibly only be time for one race, of about 20-30 mins so maybe have this as a non-points race?

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Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 9:10am
Originally posted by LeeW LeeW wrote:

I'd really like to race on a town centre circuit, looks very exciting.
 
and you can! On sunday 24th of May there will be a 1.2 mile town centre circuit in St Helier, Jersey. A web page with more information about this, and the other events for HPVs that weekend will be available shortly . . .
 
Keith.


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 9:11am

I don't always have time to read every post in every thread (I guess I didn't read that thread because I knew I wasn't going to the Bentwaters try-out).  Nobody had raised the possibility with me, in my capacity as CompSec.

You're right that one slot of 20-30 mins would be insufficient for a Championship event, anyway.  It does sound like fun.  Purely personally, I doubt that I'll be travelling from Yorkshire to Sussex for 20 mins racing, but that doesn't stop anyone else playing, should we be invited.

 



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Posted By: ND4E
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:51am

All looks good is Castle Coombe going to be a 2 hour race?



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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by ND4E ND4E wrote:

All looks good is Castle Coombe going to be a 2 hour race?
 
Whoever volunteers as race organisator of a given meeting gets the privilege of a certain degree of discretion over the race formats, but everyone on the track at the same time, for a two-hour race would, indeed, be the usual format - and my expectation - for Castle Combe. 
 
I'm also hoping that one of the Fowlmead days will be a longer race than the more usual formula of 45mins +whatever.


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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 12:57pm
Anyone fancy a 6-hour race at Fowlmead?

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 1:07pm
or  12-24 @ Llandow


Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by graydog graydog wrote:

or  12-24 @ Llandow

What is that?

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 1:15pm
well Llandow car circiut in south Wales has restictions on when they can hold car race.
So in the mean time they let bike races run. Just over a year ago I was using the track for the Solar car, and at the time the owners were generally agreeable to a 24hr race. As I understand they are still agreeable.


Posted By: ND4E
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 2:33pm

A great way to start the season off burn off some of those winter calories



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Posted By: ND4E
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 2:35pm
Great idea Lee, you start off and we'll all follow, we promise!!!!!

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ND4E


Posted By: Hadden
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 5:48pm
Do Preston and Lancaster clash with the Worlds/Cyclevision or is it the Ford testing ground event then? Pity there is only one velodrome and it's outside. But it looks like a great season of racing.

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Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

Lancaster/Preston immediately follows Cyclevision/Worlds 2009.
When and wwwhere are the Worlds dates published please?


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by LeeW LeeW wrote:

Anyone fancy a 6-hour race at Fowlmead?
 
Let me think...
 
Erm....
 
Erm...
 
Erm...
 
 
 
 
 
No.
 
Big%20smile


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Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 9:44pm
Originally posted by Yowie Yowie wrote:

When and wwwhere are the Worlds dates published please?

In the Netherlands, venue to be confirmed, date announced as 3-5 July with the possibility (I am told) of an organised touring event in the preceding week.

All still a bit tenuous at this early stage, but Jack Dekker (the leading Dutch organiser) is a member of this forum and would, I am sure, respond to a PM.




Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 9:47pm
3-5 July is still provisional I think for the worlds/CV, depending on the one (in my opinion more desirable) option of venue..

Sorry Howie, they haven't confirmed anything yet, 




Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 04 November 2008 at 8:20am
Originally posted by McDee McDee wrote:

Originally posted by LeeW LeeW wrote:

I'd really like to race on a town centre circuit, looks very exciting.
and you can! On sunday 24th of May there will be a 1.2 mile town centre circuit in St Helier, Jersey. A web page with more information about this, and the other events for HPVs that weekend will be available shortly . . .
 
In the meantime, here's an aerial photo of the course for the BHPC race:
http://homepage.mac.com/jobank/Sites/Photos/QuennevaisTrack.jpg - homepage.mac.com/jobank/Photos/QuennevaisTrack.jpg
 
The kml file for any google earthlings:
http://homepage.mac.com/jobank/Sites/QuennevaisTrack.kml - homepage.mac.com/jobank/QuennevaisTrack.kml
 
and some photos of the track being used by 'safety bikes' (click on "2008 Track" in the middle of the page):
http://www.velosportjersey.com/section/9/index.html - http://www.velosportjersey.com/section/9/index.html
 
Keith.


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 01 December 2008 at 1:30pm
See below for an update on the current position.  All of these are now either confirmed or, at the very least, I'm just waiting for final written confirmation of the venue accepting our booking.  All being well, then, the dates and venues will be as below.  All are as the provisional calendar I  posted at the beginning of this thread except that I couldn't get either of the dates I wanted for Hillingdon.  The September event at Hillingdon has had to come forward a week to 6th.  For the early-season date, I just couldn't get a suitable slot at Hillingdon.  I know many of you like the circuit, and I would gladly have had two events there, but it just didn't work out; sorry.  In order to keep it handy for the South East, I've booked Reading instead. 
 
All events are for racing to start at the usual 11.00, except for Curborough, where we may not have the track until 13.00.
 
Date                 Venue      
April 26             Castle Combe      
May 10              Reading
May 23 or 24     Jersey (Keith Davis)      
June 13             Fowlmead I      
June 14             Fowlmead II      
July 11              Salt Ayre, Lancaster       
July 12              Preston Sports Arena      
July 26              Darley Moor      
August 9           Quibell Park, Scunthorpe      
August 22         Curborough (from 13.00)
September 6     Hillingdon      
October 4          Redbridge (Hog Hill) + AGM 


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 01 December 2008 at 11:43pm
Worth noting that there are now two clashes with BPCC events...
10th May and 6th September.
I realise that it's not easy to fit it all in and I think Adrian has done a great job with a good mix of circuits... 
Unfortunately Reading and Hillingdon are our nearest circuits and we'll be pedal car racing on those days... Cry
 
I'm planning to do a full season of pedal car racing next year but I'm still hoping to get to as many BHPC events as possible...
 
Plenty to look forward to over winter!! Big%20smile


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Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 8:59am
Well done, Adrian - now all we need are some volunteers to organise racing...

Judith and I will be happy to do Hog Hill, our "home" circuit.


Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 9:35am
Yes, well done - next year's race calendar looks good. Put me down to organise at Preston.


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 9:51am
Originally posted by AlanGoodman AlanGoodman wrote:

Worth noting that there are now two clashes with BPCC events...
10th May and 6th September.
 
Yes.  It's surprising how congested a whole six months can get once you throw in a few constraints.  As Alan clearly realises, I did try to avoid clashing with BPCC events (and other national/international ones CTC rally, Cyclevision, etc.), but couldn't avoid these two.
 
I've learnt a few lessons in the process of putting together the 2009 calendar.  Now, if enough of you are kind to me and volunteer to organisate races, I may be persuadable to keep the job on and try to do better still for 2010.  Thanks to Nick and Judith and to Keith for volunteering already.  I think I know who'll do Lancaster, too. 
 
Who's up for any of the others?
 
I have a special request regarding Fowlmead.  It would be useful if someone who can visit the circuit, or at least - unlike me - has been there, could suggest variations for using the track over the two days.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 11:08am
Adrian
 
Happy to do Reading ....


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:21pm
I'll do Curborough


Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:59pm
Assuming that someone will help me out on the day you can put me down for Scunthorpe.


Posted By: ND4E
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 5:04pm
I'll do Hillingdon as it's my local. Will need full training but will have the whole season to pick it up, Andy

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 02 December 2008 at 6:33pm
sorry can't put my hand-up here, as I'd have to organise a technical training sesh before or after, Or even worse between the racesEvil%20Smile 
 
no for real, can't due to the solar/race car things, and so can't know for sure how things will pan out. It is not that we don't know when the races are it is the prep.
 
 


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 8:30am
Originally posted by ND4E ND4E wrote:

I'll do Hillingdon as it's my local. Will need full training but will have the whole season to pick it up, Andy
 
Thanks, Andy, and to the other volunteers.  There's not that much to know.  As you've done a few races, you may be surprised at how much you've already picked up.  I'm sure that an offer on the day as organisators assistant at any other event will be gratefully received and would enable you to pick up stuff like the principal operations of the race software.
 
One day, when I get one of them tuit things, I'll write up a sheet of the things an organisator needs to be ready to do.


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Posted By: tosgh
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 11:17am
Can anyone give details of Reading i.e. location google map etc?

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Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 12:37pm
Reading:
http://www.runtrackdir.com/details.asp?track=reading - http://www.runtrackdir.com/details.asp?track=reading


Posted By: Upright Mike
Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 2:04am
Date for Ford Proving Ground event in Romeo, Michigan, USA...
Friday July 17 - Sunday July 19.
 
All are welcome to make the trip over to the States.
I realize it will be a long & expensive trip.
 
Rumors are that Hans Wessels, Ellen van Vugt, Thomas Shaik, & Simon are you coming(?) may attend.  World Hour record holder Damjan Zabovnik has expressed his interest.
 
This event will be two weeks after the Worlds July 3 - 5.  All of best North American riders, including Sam Whittingham after he completes RAAM are expected to attend.
It would be great to have the fastest riders in the world try their hand at Full-Faired, Partial-faired and Unfaired record attempts in the following events:
 
1/4 mile drag
Kilometer straight line drag
One - Hour time trial  (also perhaps 25 mile time trial)
Road races
Trike race
Six Hour time trial - world record attempt or race
 
 
The event is being setup to allow individuals and multiple riders a chance on brand-new (rebuilt/repaved) 5 mile oval that is very Flat (less than 8 inches variance all the way around).  I am fortunate to work for Ford Motor Company and they are allowing racers use of their track to try and attempt world records and have a weekend of HPV racing fun!
See other thread I started on this event in this Racing section.
 
Sincerely,
Mike Mowett


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Posted By: richforrest
Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 11:53pm
Is Sam still doing RAAM? is he riding on another team as Team Bacchetta aren't doing it any more?
 
Rich.
 
 


Posted By: Upright Mike
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 1:56am

Yep, Sam is doing RAAM.  Not sure what team he is riding on.  Team Bachetta pulled out I think last I heard.  It just gets too hard to do it again, big cost to them.  John Schlitter was in Battle Mountain the night Sam set his record.  It would have been interesting to get a photo-op with them two.  Not to mention Fast Freddy Markham, we had three RAAM veterans present.  I had the opportunity to meet Glenn Duery a few years back when he came to one of our races. 

Sam likes the fact that the Ford Challenge dates were moved back one week from their original proposed dates.  He says it will give him more time to recover before the event.



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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 8:40am
With regard to the Jersey event would that nice Mr McDee:

  1. e-mail me off the forum, or
  2. clear out his PM inbox
Ta esso...


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Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 9:38am
Ooops Embarrassed
 
There's now space - if you could re-send that would be great!
 
 


Posted By: Carol
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:57am
Originally posted by fards fards wrote:

I'll do Curborough


We're hoping to get to that one, but probably not to race so if you need assistance , we can be roped in Smile


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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 11:53am
Originally posted by jes@gcre jes@gcre wrote:

BPCC calendar was OK'd by the AGM today and looks like this:
 
Sunday, April 5th - Shrewsbury 100 mile
 
Saturday, May 9th - Welsh 10 hour [day / night race] (Port Talbot)
 
June 27th - 28th - Shenington 24 hour (near Banbury)
 
Sunday, July 19th - Silverstone Sprints (1hr + 2 hrs + 3hrs)
 
Saturday, September 5th - Blackbushe Sprints (1hr + 2 hrs + 3hrs)
 
Sunday, September 6th - Blackbushe 5 hour
 
Saturday, September 26th - Curborough Sprints (1hr + 2 hrs + 3hrs) [day / night race]
 
 
And I am pleased to say that the nice people at Silverstone just confirmed the event for 19th July which is brilliant.
 
Now to find 300 traffic cones...


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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 12:09pm
Last time I went down the M1 there were thousands of cones, I'm sure they won't miss a few for a few days :D

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 8:49pm

Jes what part of the cct are you using ------> as Formula Student are there

http://www.formulastudent.com/events/ - http://www.formulastudent.com/events/

16th-19th and use mainly the area around the start/finish straight along with all the pits. you`ll have to battle with over 100 teams from around the world for camping food halls etc.
 
and they make 110dBs or less........ or moe at night!!!!!
 
check it out!!!! you may find the FS lot have cones you could use. Let me know what goes and I`ll ask F and K at IMechE. last year we had two bent flying up and down the rear of the pits.
 
regards
Gd


Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:24pm
We are using car park 49 and I am not after camping on site seeing as no one complained that there wasn't any last time!
 
We borrowed 300 off a very nice man at Carrillion last year and I was really hoping to do the same but any other leads would be handy!


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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 12:26pm
where is carpark 49, normally anything at the rear of the pits is in use by FS..... either for car parking or driving.
 
I`ll send an email over to F anf K, see what gives
 
gd


Posted By: phil@gcre
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 1:14pm
http://www.pedalcars.info/forum/uploads/images/PhilGO/8DF8A_carpark49.JPG - http://www.pedalcars.info/forum/uploads/images/PhilGO/8DF8A_carpark49.JPG
 
Car park 49 is in red circle, i assume you will be able to recognise the circuit from bridge to pit entry..


Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 3:27pm

It boasts the longest urinal in human powered racing in the world.

Almost makes it worth the trip in itself!
 
And there is a Costa coffee for those not pedalling so I might put myself down as pit crew for that one...


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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 6:31pm
ok see cp49 on the main way in, your in for some real rubber necking in that spot ;o)
if you have time in the day pop over to the grand stands area and have a gog around the FS race. it is endurance race day Sunday, their last evetn 25 mins. there are sometime overflow event on sunday morning.
 
no word back on the cones yet.
 
might get dwon to watch some of the Shewsbury 100 as we are only just in Wrexham these days.
 
regards
Gd


Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 9:51am
Thanks for trying on the cones front!
 
Jes


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