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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2009 at 11:17am
Cyclo cross pedal car on the drawing board.
 
Sort of cross between a pedal car and a land rover.
 
4 wheel drive, 4 wheel steer and folding up to fit into an army style bergen when you have to run.


Edited by jes@gcre - 07 December 2009 at 11:18am
Racing is life...
Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2009 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by NickM NickM wrote:

Don't break anything!
The only thing I've broken so far is the "Quality" bearings in my SJS rear hub.  Totally seized.  Kaput.  Mort.  Dead   I can't recommend them lowly enough for heavy use.  Cry

2x 6000 2RS and all's well again, but no refund, replace of even free bearings from the Bridgwater Bandits Angry.

"SJSC Double Fixed Track Hubs with High Quality Sealed Bearings - 36 Hole - Polished Alloy  Product Code: 11137"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 December 2009 at 5:07pm
More of same.  23rd/34.

Ice mud and sticky mud in the warmer wooded area.  As I mentioned elsewhere, cramp got me badly so I spent a while resting and watching other riders go past me...

Snaps.

I really must recommend cyclo cross for anyone getting a little dissuaded by the dankness of on-road conditions of late.  Obviously we've had it mild down here, but it has enthused me no end when I might prefer to do utility+zero miles.  Boxing Day 10 here I come Tongue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 December 2009 at 10:49pm
phil wood high flange won't seize up on you. I got mine from http://www.hubjub.co.uk/philwood/philwood.htm. Hope santa sends you some ;-)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2009 at 2:25pm
Arbut, Phil Wood hubs also use cartridge bearings, so unless PW use much better sealed cartridge bearings, or they are shielded from the crud I can't justify the expense.

The SJS hubs aren't shielded on the outside edge of the rubber seal (non-rotating seal) the inside edge (rotating edge between seal and race) is barely hidden behind an axle nut.  Any further justification for a £135 rear hub?

I did Xmas dinner yesterday, so today I have a day off and end up baking the mince pies etc anyway.  Humbug.  H.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2009 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by Yowie Yowie wrote:

... so unless PW use much better sealed cartridge bearings, or they are shielded from the crud I can't justify the expense.


1. From the Phil Wood web site
"We specify the race tolerance, surface honing, ball diameter tolerance, bearing material, gap dimensions, and seal specifications. Standard bearings are 100% filled with Phil Waterproof Grease to ensure maximum durability.

Any of our bearings with an “x” in the part number have seals that are as good or better than those found in the highest quality submersible motor and pump bearings."

[Ref: http://www.philwood.com/products/bearings/]

2. They are very shiny. And, have the words 'phil' hand painted in red in the middle of the hub body. What more could you want ?

3.Very important non-obvious benefit: Riding fixed rear wheel with mud guards is a really pain if / when you get a flat: the combination of track nuts, guards and a tight chain can mean that it is impossible to remove the wheel !. The usual solution to this is to mount the guards on sks chromoplastic secu-clips. However.... The phil fixed hubs do not have a through axle !: instead the lock nuts screw into the hub. This means (a) you can remove the wheel with an allen key (no more carrying around a big spanner to get track-nuts off) and (b) when you remove the lock nut screws the wheel just drops straight out - problem solved.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2009 at 1:31pm
So would I get the same durability as a PW hub by installing PW's spec of bearing?  His site says in the Bearings section :-

Phil Spec'd Premium Bearings

PW000 IRO, Formula, Suntour & others (Fr & Rr)
$5.30
Mfg #:6000
Comments:IRO, Formula, Suntour & others (Fr & Rr)
I.D.:10mm
O.D.:26mm
Width:8mm
So, they're only $5.30 each.  Any good UK retailers?

That's the size that fits my SJS hubs.  I find the PW site a little less than clear what size bearings they use in the actual PW track hubs...
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