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    Posted: 21 September 2019 at 1:54am
Yes, it is banked - I've seen pictures. The motoring comics used to use it for testing before Millbrook was built, though they tended to go to Germany to max anything faster than 150 mph. IIRC Jaguar test driver Norman Dewis still holds the lap record at ~161 mph in the XJ13 prototype.

One of the Crane cousins set an hour record there in one of the later iterations of Bluebell. Latterly they became very paranoid about security and feared that visitors would snap pictures of top-SEEKRIT prototypes and flog them to the said motoring comics.
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shows the MIRA facility.  Are the corners on the high speed track banked, in an HPV friendly way, I wonder?   This photo shows the facility but it isn't clear if the high speed track is banked or not


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To be fair I really enjoyed the week. Yes it was frustrating not to run at the speed the bike was capable of, but we did a good job to turn the bike round in four days and get it ride-able by Saturday - the windy run on Saturday (when all other teams scratched or crashed) was testament that we were going in the right direction with the re-design.  We were up to 47mph on this run but I got a bit flustered due to wind/terror/wobbly-screens/other-excuses and braked at the wrong flags (start of traps vs end of traps - der) so the official speed was 42mph - for reference Andrea (Italian male rider) only went through at 48mph in the slightly less windy following session. The 8 uni students who came with us got far far more out of the week that if we'd have bought a fully working bike, and they all seemed thoroughly happy/exhausted/tested/exhilarated by Sunday...

The only time my patience was really tested was during the hour long tat give-away in the Saturday night dinner - you don't get that at the Olympics! I was bored so I drew a sketch of Dave looking bored - I suspect he was writing something about a unicorn horn...


Agreed re the automatic musings, very enjoyable LOL


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I've just caught up with Mr Larringtons scribblings and would like to thank Dave for all his words. I think you are getting even better at ritting and I enjoyed every entry. Great stuff. Russ, your patience must be tested. Well done to all.
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Scrutiny of Google maps shows some kind of circuit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunton_Technical_Centre.  I think there might be something at the Jaguar Land-Rover facility at Gaydon, Warkwickshire, but I ate'nt sure.  Perchance Geoff or Twed might know?

Edit:  the banked high-speed track at MIRA has been used for at least one HPV hour attempt in the the dim and distant.  The motorised types have lapped it at speeds in excess of 160 mph.


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sorry, slip of the brain; the track I was thinking of is Millbrook, not MIRA.  Not sure what the high speed track is like at MIRA; I don't think it is a banked track like at Millbrook.

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All of the teams I spoke to (Denise, Hans and Ellen, Dutch, Italians etc) all had access to a 2-4mile bowl, and were doing regular tests. I think the only places in the UK are Millbrook and MIRA. Anyone have any contacts there?
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Q; how do riders from other countries get to test their machines?

Suggestion; is it worth looking into getting part of the MIRA test track resurfaced, so that it is more HPV friendly?

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Russell - completely agree about the lack of test tracks in the UK for BM type tests.
 
IMHO the solution is to build Greenways. We have enough old rail tracks in the UK to do this. Sections of these greenways could be segregated between cyclists and walkers such that a premium section could be cordoned off for: TT, autonomous ULV testing, BM testing or such like. Recreational cyclists could be diverted onto shared footpaths while these tests are taking place. 
 
This is not a BHPC objective but I have been personally chipping away at this for the past 2 years. I get to take the Mayor of Cambridgeshire out for a cycle ride and I get letters back from Jesse Norman saying only fit riders will cycle between Oxford and Cambridge but I am making very little progress which is bleeding frustrating.
 
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The main problem (as well as naively carrying over largely untested geometry from the old bike) is lack of suitable test venue in the UK - to get a BM machine up to speed needs three miles, preferrably downhill, dead straight road/runway/other, with smooth tarmac, no traffic, no rain etc etc.  The best we could find was Elvington nr York (5hr drive for London lot), which really wasn't suitable. The bike felt OK up to 35mph in the UK, but that wasn't fast enough to demonstrate the handling problems.

Anyway, enough of those problems, we've got real problems here in our overnight stop in Lake Tahoe - we just left our rooms to go down to dinner and there's a bloody big BEAR! in the car park:
We've informed reception who've told us that animal welfare don't work weekends, so the Police have been called.  We left via the other door and are off to find bloody big steaks...
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