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Topic: 2018 Round 8: York Sport Village, Sunday 24th June
Posted By: ChrisH
Subject: 2018 Round 8: York Sport Village, Sunday 24th June
Date Posted: 09 June 2018 at 5:23pm
This is the place for discussion about the 8th round of the 2018 BHPC races on the cycle circuit at York Sport Village, YO10 5FG: 

 

We have the 1km cycle circuit booked from 10:30-12:30 and the neighbouring 250m outdoor velodrome from 13:00-15:00.

 

First and foremost we need volunteers to help organise (with sign-on, deciding on race formats etc). Please post on here and/or let me know if you are willing to help out? The circuit and the velodrome are only about 50 metres apart and I’m sure there will be plenty of people (ie. everybody else) willing to assist with the moving the race kit set up to and between the two venues on the day.


I suggest we start sign-on at 9:30




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Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 09 June 2018 at 5:26pm
If anyone wants to make a weekend of it this is on the same weekend as the York Cycle Rally  

http://yorkrally.org/

so plenty of interesting things to keep you occupied on the Sarturday


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 09 June 2018 at 6:36pm
BHPC will have a stand/marquee at the York Rally so on the Saturday we'll be letting people know about the racing on Sunday - That may well mean a few more spectators than usual...


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Posted By: Woolly Hat
Date Posted: 20 June 2018 at 8:21am
Do we know what the race format/lengths will be this Sunday?

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 June 2018 at 8:25am
Nobody has volunteered to organise the racing at York as far as I know... Cry



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Posted By: Woolly Hat
Date Posted: 20 June 2018 at 8:43am
It is still on for Sunday though? 

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Ross Low Racer 77 - beware of unexpected changes of direction


Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 20 June 2018 at 10:46am
I don't know what race formats the race organisers have chosen because nobody has yet offered to help race organise at York.


Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 20 June 2018 at 6:48pm
Hi Chris
I will be going to York so I can organise if someone will give me a hand as for race formats how about a one hour plus one lap on the circuit and the maybe a 45 minute race on the velodrome, just an idea if anyone has any other thoughts, also who has the sign on laptop and race kit.
Cheers.
Jeff.

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Posted By: hotta
Date Posted: 20 June 2018 at 10:50pm
Hi Jeff
I’ve got the race kit and will be there Friday evening

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Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 21 June 2018 at 12:16am
Originally posted by blogwat blogwat wrote:

Hi Chris
I will be going to York so I can organise if someone will give me a hand as for race formats how about a one hour plus one lap on the circuit and the maybe a 45 minute race on the velodrome, just an idea if anyone has any other thoughts, also who has the sign on laptop and race kit.
Cheers.
Jeff.

The circuit is only hired for two hours so fast and slow races won't fit.

Roy


Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 21 June 2018 at 8:03am
Ok Roy thanks for that, how about two 45 min races that would give us 30 mins spare, I'm open to ideas, thanks neil I will be at York show Saturday morning so see you then.

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Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 21 June 2018 at 9:05am
Thanks Jeff

Much appreciated.   SmileSmileSmile


Posted By: speedy381
Date Posted: 22 June 2018 at 9:35am
I'm available as well, looks like I'm not up to racing this weekend. Lyme disease and antibiotics are taking their toll

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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 22 June 2018 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by blogwat blogwat wrote:

who has the sign on laptop and race kit.
I have the sign-on laptop ready set up for York. I'll take it to the rally on Saturday in case you're there. Even if you're not we could sign people on at the rally to save time on Sunday.

Perhaps I could do a craft demonstration of writing timing tags as well.


Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 22 June 2018 at 6:23pm
Good thinking Batman, I will catch up with you at the York show on Saturday Andrew.
Cheers.
Jeff.

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Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 23 June 2018 at 9:43am
Originally posted by speedy381 speedy381 wrote:

I'm available as well, looks like I'm not up to racing this weekend. Lyme disease and antibiotics are taking their toll


THat's brilliant news Ian! (The availability to help race organise, not the Lymes disease).


Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 9:53am
Hi folks
as always had a great weekend at the York show and the race meeting too my first time camping in may a year, the only thing that was keeping me awake was my teeth chattering, note to self remember to take my camp bed and get a better sleeping bag, as for the races thanks to all the people who helped me ( actuly did all the real work ) organize that was much appeciated Clap, in the first race thanks to kim for making me work and keeping me up to speed, also nice to meet all the very interesting people at the show and race and some old friends and fellow cyclists, the velodrome was as usual a bit scary at first but when you get the hang of it not too bad and no cyclist were harmed in the making of the weekend, lovely day had by all I think, so here are some photo's of the weekend copy any you want and hope you all got home safely'
Cheers.
Jeff.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/recumbents/" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recumbents/


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Posted By: ShawnB
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 12:12pm
Massive thanks to Jeff, https://www.facebook.com/ian.squires.33?fref=gc&dti=43088031963&hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Ian , https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008736254109&fref=gc&dti=43088031963&hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Heather , https://www.facebook.com/andrew.sidwell.5?fref=gc&dti=43088031963&hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Andrew , https://www.facebook.com/neil.hood.311?fref=gc&dti=43088031963&hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Neil and all who pitched in and raced making the Rally & Races a truly great weekend.   Clap


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Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Originally posted by blogwat blogwat wrote:

who has the sign on laptop and race kit.
I have the sign-on laptop ready set up for York. I'll take it to the rally on Saturday in case you're there. Even if you're not we could sign people on at the rally to save time on Sunday.

Perhaps I could do a craft demonstration of writing timing tags as well.

Hi Andrew 

PM sent.

Roy


Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 4:45pm
Thanks to all for a great day's racing. Thoroughly k'nak'd last night and today which I suspect is light sunstroke, rest of the week off req'd... Big smile


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 6:45pm
Below are the preliminary results for the York races.

For some reason I have no tag data at all for Dave Overton and no data from the first (road circuit) race for Russell, although perfect results from the 2nd (velodrome) race. I have video recordings of both races but if either Dave or Russ have anything (Garmin data, dim recollections, hearsay evidence) which will avoid me having to watch them I would be most grateful.

First the road circuit races:

Round 1 Race 1






Pos Name Nr Bike Name Class Laps Time MPH
1 Ian Pike 121 Pike Trike O/P/U/Mf/M 21 38:08.89 20.5
2 Gary Wright 79 Bob Jackson Upright Trike O/P/U/Mf/M 21 38:32.50 20.3
3 Kim Wall 136 The Red Baron O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 21 39:03.55 20.0
4 Jeffrey James 132 cobra O/P 21 39:04.42 20.0
5 andy newham 80 pink peril trike O/Mf/M 21 39:15.92 19.9
6 Dan Linstead 125 Tierney O/P/U/Mf/M 21 39:55.98 19.6
7 Roy MacDonald 28 Kingcycle O/St 20 39:40.34 18.7
8 Phillip Wilkinson 14 Ice VTX Trike O/P/U/Mf/M 19 39:10.91 18.0
9 Howard Yeomans elsie luna 82 thorn raven twin O/P/U/St/S 18 38:21.67 17.4
10 Stephen Clements 112 Ice VTX O/P/U/Mf/M 18 38:22.30 17.4
11 Rae Arnold 100 Special Al O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 18 38:48.88 17.2
12 ian mattews 39 higgins O/P/U/Mf/M 18 39:12.95 17.1
13 Colin Wait 77 zoom O/P/U 18 39:22.82 17.0
14 katie Ladkin 119 loxley O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 17 38:35.23 16.4








Round 1 Race 2






Pos Name Nr Bike Name Class Laps Time MPH
1 Ian Squires 150 bream O 26 37:27.97 25.8
2 Lee Wakefield 2 Milan SL O/Mf 26 37:56.37 25.5
3 Andrew Sidwell 102 Rattysnake O/P 26 38:50.73 24.9
4 Derrick Tweddle 96 Yellowdonkey O 25 38:10.17 24.4
5 Jochen Farwer 66 M5 Lowracer O/P/U 25 38:20.92 24.3
6 Chris Hamilton 32 Rat Racer Genisis O/P 24 37:57.89 23.5
7 David L'Hostis 18 Performer FWD O/P/U 24 38:11.62 23.4
8 Mike Burrows 0 X O/P 23 38:40.70 22.1
9 Shawn Ballantine 59 Notso O 22 38:30.45 21.3
10 Neil Hood 20 Grotty O/P/U/Mf/M 21 37:34.02 20.8
11 Tim Parker 46 ICE VTX O/P/U/Mf/M 21 38:02.87 20.5
12 Joseph Parker 101 SB Speedy O/P/U/Mf/M 20 38:42.54 19.2


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 6:47pm
Dave Overton pulled out of the velodrome race after about 10 minutes or so, just before Joe also stopped...


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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 6:47pm
Then the velodrome races:

Round 2 Race 1






Pos Name Nr Bike Name Class Laps Time MPH
1 Tim Parker 46 ICE VTX O/P/U/Mf/M 47 20:30.88 21.4
2 Neil Hood 20 Grotty O/P/U/Mf/M 47 20:41.83 21.2
3 Jeffrey James 132 cobra O/P 47 21:09.51 20.8
4 Roy MacDonald 28 Kingcycle O/St 44 20:52.66 19.7
5 Howard Yeomans elsie luna 82 thorn raven twin O/P/U/St/S 39 21:00.05 17.4
6 katie Ladkin 119 loxley O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 36 20:36.04 16.3
7 Joseph Parker 101 SB Speedy O/P/U/Mf/M 20
0.0
8 Dan Linstead 125 Tierney O/P/U/Mf/M 0   0.0








Round 2 Race 2






Pos Name Nr Bike Name Class Laps Time MPH
1 Lee Wakefield 2 Milan SL O/Mf 70 20:35.22 31.8
2 Derrick Tweddle 96 Yellowdonkey O 64 20:53.10 28.7
3 Shawn Ballantine 59 Notso O 60 20:35.63 27.3
4 Andrew Sidwell 102 Rattysnake O/P 60 20:49.69 27.0
5 Mike Burrows 0 X O/P 57 20:46.18 25.7
6 Jochen Farwer 66 M5 Lowracer O/P/U 56 20:41.35 25.3
7 David L'Hostis 18 Performer FWD O/P/U 55 20:40.85 24.9
8 Russell Bridge 13 NoCom O/P/U 54 20:44.25 24.4
9 Chris Hamilton 32 Rat Racer Genisis O/P 51 20:35.22 23.2
10 Kim Wall 136 The Red Baron O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 47 20:51.64 21.1
11 Colin Wait 77 zoom O/P/U 40 21:05.78 17.7


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 6:55pm
And finally the Schnellste Rund:

Round 3 Race 1






Pos Name Nr Bike Name Class Laps Time MPH
1 Lee Wakefield 2 Milan SL O/Mf 1 0:16.31 34.2
2 Derrick Tweddle 96 Yellowdonkey O 1 0:16.54 33.8
3 Russell Bridge 13 NoCom O/P/U 1 0:17.12 32.6
4 Andrew Sidwell 102 Rattysnake O/P 1 0:18.04 30.9
5 David L'Hostis 18 Performer FWD O/P/U 1 0:18.15 30.7
6 Shawn Ballantine 59 Notso O 1 0:18.26 30.6
7 Chris Hamilton 32 Rat Racer Genisis O/P 1 0:18.51 30.2
8 Mike Burrows 0 X O/P 1 0:19.02 29.4
9 Jochen Farwer 66 M5 Lowracer O/P/U 1 0:19.02 29.4
10 Dave Overton 30 Overton O/P/U/Mf/M 1 0:20.36 27.4
11 Neil Hood 20 Grotty O/P/U/Mf/M 1 0:20.76 26.9
12 Kim Wall 136 The Red Baron O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 1 0:21.26 26.3
13 Joseph Parker 101 SB Speedy O/P/U/Mf/M 1 0:21.72 25.7
14 Tim Parker 46 ICE VTX O/P/U/Mf/M 1 0:21.95 25.4
15 Jeffrey James 132 cobra O/P 1 0:23.15 24.1
16 Colin Wait 77 zoom O/P/U 1 0:23.54 23.7
17 Roy MacDonald 28 Kingcycle O/St 1 0:23.67 23.6
18 katie Ladkin 119 loxley O/P/U/L/Lp/St/S 1 0:24.51 22.8


Posted By: Gazonatrike
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 7:27pm
I believe I was third in the slow race not second as shown, I was overtaken by a recumbent on the last corner our close proximity during the race may have blocked the signal? 

Gaz


Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 7:50pm
In the first race I was about 10 seconds behind David (closing fast thanks to a tow from Jochen - 1 more lap and I'd have had him, honest...), and I had 1 lap and a bit on Mike. I'll upload to Strava now and verify.
Russ

Yep, Strava recons 38:15 and 24 laps for me...


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 8:14pm
This does not affect the result but on the Velodrome 20 min +1 my Garmin is showing 20.2 mph and Strava is showing 20.3 mph.

Roy 


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 8:40pm
I counted on Strava and it is showing 45 laps not 44. Still does not affect the result.

Roy


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

This does not affect the result but on the Velodrome 20 min +1 my Garmin is showing 20.2 mph and Strava is showing 20.3 mph.
Speeds on velodromes are always a bit hazy as we take the nominal lap length, measured around the inside edge of the innermost line. As it is virtually impossible to stay on that line almost everyone's laps are longer than the nominal (250m for York) hence real speeds are higher than the nominal.


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

This does not affect the result but on the Velodrome 20 min +1 my Garmin is showing 20.2 mph and Strava is showing 20.3 mph.
Speeds on velodromes are always a bit hazy as we take the nominal lap length, measured around the inside edge of the innermost line. As it is virtually impossible to stay on that line almost everyone's laps are longer than the nominal (250m for York) hence real speeds are higher than the nominal.

Thanks Andrew. And the extra lap I'm seeing? Strava is showing 250m per lap and 11.28 km and I was very accurate with the start stop button.

Roy


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

I counted on Strava and it is showing 45 laps not 44. Still does not affect the result.
You may be counting a warm-down lap? According to the tag data (which I do have for you, contrary to what I thought) Tim Parker took the flag at 20:30.88; your next crossing was lap 44 at 20:52.66.


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by russellbridge russellbridge wrote:

In the first race I was about 10 seconds behind David (closing fast thanks to a tow from Jochen - 1 more lap and I'd have had him, honest...), and I had 1 lap and a bit on Mike. I'll upload to Strava now and verify.
Russ

Yep, Strava recons 38:15 and 24 laps for me...
Doh - I was just getting out the beer and settling down for a nice evening of watching recumbent racing. Now I'll have to watch footie instead Cry.


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 10:59pm
If anyone is missing a rather nice Camelbak Podium Chill water bottle after York, we have it.


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

I counted on Strava and it is showing 45 laps not 44. Still does not affect the result.
You may be counting a warm-down lap? According to the tag data (which I do have for you, contrary to what I thought) Tim Parker took the flag at 20:30.88; your next crossing was lap 44 at 20:52.66.

Total distance 11.28 km. = 45 laps at 250 m per lap. I pressed the stop button as I crossed the line which is the 0.3 km extra distance I have being the amount I traveled as I reached and pressed the button. I did it as I got the chequered flag. Any chance the system missed a lap? I was the most accurate with the button I've ever been thanks to Alan's super fast start. The Garmin was not recording after the chequered flag. 

All the best.

Roy



Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 25 June 2018 at 11:53pm
Thanks everyone for a great days racing at York Yesterday. To Ian Squires and Jeff James for organisery, and Andrew & Heather for al the additional support with timing systems and trackside logistics. Any thoughts on the pros/cons of the 50/50 split between the race track in the morn and adjacent velodrome in the afternoon (as well as scheduling it on the same weekend as the York Cycle Rally). I'm interested to hear any feedback (either post here or PM me).


Posted By: Arellcat
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 12:12am
Hi all, since I was a spectator for all but three or four weeny laps at the end of the session, here's a whole bunch of photographs from round 1 race 1, round 1 race 2, round 2 race 2, and just a few from round 3 race 1.  For race 1 on the velodrome I was busy eating a panini in the cafe.  Geoff, you're welcome to use any of the pics for the magazine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/albums/72157697881124074" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/albums/72157697881124074

Thanks to Shawn and Kim for making me give my Quest what-for on the banking. Smile


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Posted By: Woolly Hat
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 8:43am
Had a great time at York this weekend. Thanks to all the organisers for a superb day and also to Jeff and @Arellcat for sharing your photos.

Had no end of trouble trying to find a decent line through the hairpin without slowing too much which will probably necessitate a return visit for more practicing :-)

First go on a velodrome and what fun that was! Particularly the flying lap!


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Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 9:07am
Originally posted by Arellcat Arellcat wrote:

Hi all, since I was a spectator for all but three or four weeny laps at the end of the session, here's a whole bunch of photographs from round 1 race 1, round 1 race 2, round 2 race 2, and just a few from round 3 race 1.  For race 1 on the velodrome I was busy eating a panini in the cafe.  Geoff, you're welcome to use any of the pics for the magazine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/albums/72157697881124074" rel="nofollow - https://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/albums/72157697881124074

Thanks to Shawn and Kim for making me give my Quest what-for on the banking. Smile

Thanks. Great Photos.

All the best.

Roy


Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 9:13am

Great photo's Becky thanks for sharing.

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Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 9:15am
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

I counted on Strava and it is showing 45 laps not 44. Still does not affect the result.
You may be counting a warm-down lap? According to the tag data (which I do have for you, contrary to what I thought) Tim Parker took the flag at 20:30.88; your next crossing was lap 44 at 20:52.66.

Actually Andrew I'm wondering if it's possible to create an extra (unnecessary) lap by travelling slightly above the white line for 44 laps on a small velodrome. Just odd that the distance is exactly 1 lap.

Thanks very much for finding my timings. I was a bit puzzled when you said I wasn't registering and then I wondered what would happen at the Worlds if I wasn't being detected.

All the best.

Roy


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 9:49am
From Dave Overton on Facebook:

"I appear to have not been counted in the York event, possible chip issue.
I came in a snip in front of the black Bob Jackson trike. "


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Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 11:49am
Originally posted by ChrisH ChrisH wrote:

Thanks everyone for a great days racing at York Yesterday. To Ian Squires and Jeff James for organisery, and Andrew & Heather for al the additional support with timing systems and trackside logistics. Any thoughts on the pros/cons of the 50/50 split between the race track in the morn and adjacent velodrome in the afternoon (as well as scheduling it on the same weekend as the York Cycle Rally). I'm interested to hear any feedback (either post here or PM me).


I reckon racing on the Sunday of the Rally weekend was an excellent idea. Most of the organised rally stuff happens on the Saturday, so it means we can do both without missing out (I've combined the rally with a FNRttC and done the rally audax ride in previous years, and found I've missed most of the rally as a result), and it can simplify travel plans.

It also means that there are a sufficiency of right-minded people around who might like to come and watch the "rushing about on unusually shaped bikes".

I liked the split between track and velodrome - I enjoyed the track more, but it would be a shame not to make use of both. My only complaint was the lack of shade at the velodrome (I forget who suggested we should get points for just sitting on our cycles in the sun for 20 minutes, but presumably there would be different sun-trial categories for how enclosed or fly-attracting yellow your machine was).


Anyway, apart from my lungs I enjoyed it, many thanks to all involved. Particularly Jeff for giving me a wheel to cling onto for most of the first race.


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by ChrisH ChrisH wrote:

Thanks everyone for a great days racing at York Yesterday. To Ian Squires and Jeff James for organisery, and Andrew & Heather for al the additional support with timing systems and trackside logistics. Any thoughts on the pros/cons of the 50/50 split between the race track in the morn and adjacent velodrome in the afternoon (as well as scheduling it on the same weekend as the York Cycle Rally). I'm interested to hear any feedback (either post here or PM me).


I did have an issue signing on even though I got to the track at 8:50 am. There was only Mike B and myself  there so I unpacked and went and parked my car but I didn't see any sign of a sign on set up when I got back. Was I having a senior moment? I just did not hear a call to sign on. Could we give Alice a Klaxon or something? My hearing is not what it was and I'm always easily distracted.

I really enjoyed the days racing and particularly the velodrome, because the split of racers into 3 smaller groups made it very safe. Special thanks to whoever decided that. 50/50 seemed good to me. Yes it's a nuisance having to move all the stuff from the circuit to the velodrome but not that big a deal. I might not be saying that if it had been raining of course as there is no cover at either circuit, but that's always the chance you take. I take it the velodrome is rideable in the rain? Then again if it had been raining it might have kept the flies away.Big smile Thanks to Ian,Jeff Heather,Andrew and the timing system which knew myself and my swarm were there even if no one else did.LOL

And thanks Jeff for the photos and video.Thumbs Up

All the best.

Roy


Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 1:47pm
I'm sorry you had trouble registering. I think the best advice we can offer is that, since we will definitely be signing people on, - it is a race after all - then if you haven't signed on and time is pressing you could maybe ask someone who is obviously organising, or in fact anyone else,  where it is you have to go. We don't usually have time to chase people up although we do usually get someone with a loud voice to shout when we are closing sign on.


Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

I did have an issue signing on even though I got to the track at 8:50 am. There was only Mike B and myself  there so I unpacked and went and parked my car but I didn't see any sign of a sign on set up when I got back. Was I having a senior moment? I just did not hear a call to sign on.


I also fell foul of that. I turned up somewhat later, having had navigational issues finding my way, and various people were milling around while organiser types were obviously busy with setting up the timing equipment etc. In my ignorance I waited until they'd finished what they were doing before asking, at which point I found out that the sign-on had been in the portacabin thing the whole time.

Lesson for next time, I suppose.


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 4:03pm
Originally posted by kim kim wrote:

Originally posted by RoyMacdonald RoyMacdonald wrote:

I did have an issue signing on even though I got to the track at 8:50 am. There was only Mike B and myself  there so I unpacked and went and parked my car but I didn't see any sign of a sign on set up when I got back. Was I having a senior moment? I just did not hear a call to sign on.


I also fell foul of that. I turned up somewhat later, having had navigational issues finding my way, and various people were milling around while organiser types were obviously busy with setting up the timing equipment etc. In my ignorance I waited until they'd finished what they were doing before asking, at which point I found out that the sign-on had been in the portacabin thing the whole time.

Lesson for next time, I suppose.

Thank's Kim. That accounts for it. I never went in to the Portacabin at all. I thought it was just the caretakers office.

Roy


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by HeatherF HeatherF wrote:

I'm sorry you had trouble registering. I think the best advice we can offer is that, since we will definitely be signing people on, - it is a race after all - then if you haven't signed on and time is pressing you could maybe ask someone who is obviously organising, or in fact anyone else,  where it is you have to go. We don't usually have time to chase people up although we do usually get someone with a loud voice to shout when we are closing sign on.

I did ask Heather, and was told sign on wasn't arranged yet as that is the first thing I do while I have my trousers on with some money. So I decided to get myself and the bike sorted and took it on the track. I looked before I went out,  but as I wasn't seeing any set up and I made the incorrect assumption it would be in the little green tent.  Never occured to me it was in the Portacabin I'm afraid. Then I was distracted until I was called for racing.

Roy


Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 5:30pm
I'm sorry Roy but if you had asked me or the other organisers or indeed anyone who had already signed on, I would have told you where it was. I arrived after sign on was started.
 
For the future, the green tent is for the timing system and never has anything to do with sign on. Sign on is not the same as getting your tags sorted.
 
If there isn't a suitable building we use the back of a car. The door to the Portacabin was open from when Jeff and Ian arrived and was certainly open and doing business when I arrived at about 9.45. We advertised sign on as starting at 9.30
 
I'm not pursuing this for the sake of it but so that others can see the system and hopefully we will not experience the issues we had on Sunday which meant we had to shorten the races.
 
I guess the bottom line is, if in doubt, ask someone and if they say it isn't ready yet, ask again until it is.
 
Thank you
 


Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 6:42pm
I saw that the door was open, but assumed that was simply for the purpose of providing power for the timing system.

Anyway, noted for next time. Perhaps it's worth adding a paragraph about sign on and sorting tags to the "How to race with the BHPC" page on the website, for the benefit of other newbies?


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 7:16pm
Noted Heather, especially the green tent.

The portacabin was open when I arrived before 9 am but all I saw was the caretaker coming in and out telling us what to do with our cars. Mike went in and out a few times asking questions and that was it. The organisers seemed quite busy when I saw them and the people I asked did not know at that time but I was probably asking too early I guess. Then like Kim I just thought it was the power source. I don't like feeling I'm hassling people but I will make sure I do in future Wink

Roy


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 9:46pm
The individual lap times from the timing system are now on the website here:
http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york/index.html" rel="nofollow - www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york
Roy - go to http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york/2018-06-24-York-r3-2nd_slower.html" rel="nofollow - York_r3_2nd_slower and click on your race number if you want to compare your lap times with your Garmin


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 26 June 2018 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by Gazonatrike Gazonatrike wrote:

I believe I was third in the slow race not second as shown, I was overtaken by a recumbent on the last corner our close proximity during the race may have blocked the signal
Gaz - having checked the video, the trike that crossed the line about 1 second ahead of you was Dave Overton (no 30), who we don't have any tag data for. If he was on the same lap as you then yes, you were 3rd not 4th.

Unless someone comes up with some info about Dave then I'll scan through the video and count his laps


Posted By: Gazonatrike
Date Posted: 27 June 2018 at 3:25pm
Hi Andy, I believe Dave was on the same lap as he was 'oop me exhaust' most of the race only taking over on the last corner. 


Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 27 June 2018 at 6:51pm
After my visit from the puncture pixies during the velodrome race, thanks Russel for lending me your No-Com (and your size-10 cycle shoes with the insoles removed) so I could still have a crack at the flying lap sprint.

Lucky that my own cleats didn't match your pedals as I reckon your cycle shoes being one size smaller than I'm used to reduced my frontal cross-sectional area enough to help shave a few femtoseconds off the time I would otherwise have gotten....Smile


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 June 2018 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by Gazonatrike Gazonatrike wrote:

I believe Dave was on the same lap as he was 'oop me exhaust' most of the race only taking over on the last corner. 
Excellent - that's good enough for me.

The http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york/york-18.html" rel="nofollow - final results for York together with the http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york/tables18.html" rel="nofollow - post-York Championship Tables are now available on the BHPC website


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 27 June 2018 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

The individual lap times from the timing system are now on the website here:
http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york/index.html" rel="nofollow - www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york
Roy - go to http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/08york/2018-06-24-York-r3-2nd_slower.html" rel="nofollow - York_r3_2nd_slower and click on your race number if you want to compare your lap times with your Garmin

Thanks Andrew. I'm sounding a bit obsessive about my speed because I use it as a marker for my training on the Kingcycle and when I will change to my lowracers, which both need some fine tuning to be ready to ride.

Thanks again.

Roy  


Posted By: RoyMacdonald
Date Posted: 28 June 2018 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by ChrisH ChrisH wrote:

Thanks everyone for a great days racing at York Yesterday. To Ian Squires and Jeff James for organisery, and Andrew & Heather for al the additional support with timing systems and trackside logistics. Any thoughts on the pros/cons of the 50/50 split between the race track in the morn and adjacent velodrome in the afternoon (as well as scheduling it on the same weekend as the York Cycle Rally). I'm interested to hear any feedback (either post here or PM me).

PM sent.

Roy


Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 30 June 2018 at 9:31pm
I would have been there if I hadn't been on holiday but only for the velodrome racing, combining with York Cycle Rally is good!



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