Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
jes@gcre
BHPC Member
Joined: 22 March 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 556
|
Posted: 23 October 2005 at 3:32pm |
Why don't you produce a list of types of "off-the shelf" recumbents that qualify and those that don't?
For home-builds, surely it is then just a case of people agreeing whether that particular machine is sports - class or not.
Do you have a scrutineer or someone impartial who can do this?
It is exactly the way things are done in the lower classes of sports car racing. Cars are homologated for the particular class. When someone produces a new GT racing car, the organisers inspect it and give it the OK to race in that class based on it's level of modification, power to weight ratio etc etc.
If a particular bike totally obliterates the Sports Class field one particular year then there is the case that you can decide it is not eligible for that class the following one.
Edited by jes@gcre
|
Racing is life...
Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race....
|
|
AlanGoodman
Admin Group
Club Chairman
Joined: 04 March 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7809
|
Posted: 23 October 2005 at 5:13pm |
jes@gcre wrote:
For home-builds, surely it is then just a case of people agreeing whether that particular machine is sports - class or not.
|
That's exactly the situation we are trying to get away from...
I'm pretty sure that we can work with a simple set of rules and a bit of common sense...
|
|
|
NickM
BHPC Member
Joined: 18 August 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1916
|
Posted: 28 October 2005 at 8:34pm |
KevinJ wrote:
This year there were 12 races of which the 'best 8' counted. That already allows for a number of diary clashes, etc throughout the year. So ultimately you are allowed to miss one race in every 3. I think that is reasonable. I also agree with alan that if we reduce the number than that ultimately will mean less people to races - something we cannot really afford.
|
This seems about right to me. I live in London, and won't drive right to the other end of England for a race, because doing so doesn't fit with my (by no means fanatical) ideas about the environment and cycling's role in its preservation. But I will travel for races where distances seem more reasonable, and by including other activities in those trips - walking, touring rides, whatever... I can satisfy myself that the motoring mileage is justified. So I hope to attend the necessary minimum number of races next year. I'm helped by the fact that race locations seem to be rather biased towards the south of the country - something about which I (selfishly) have no complaints at all...
|
|
AlanGoodman
Admin Group
Club Chairman
Joined: 04 March 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7809
|
Posted: 31 October 2005 at 12:19pm |
Okey Dokey...
It seems as though we have a reasonable level of agreement (as good as we could hope for anyway!)...
I think we should give the non-forum competitors in Sports Class a chance to have a say, so I intend to put some words together for Paul to put into the next newsletter...
Has anybody got any objections (with suggestions for improvements) to suggesting the following in the newsletter:
SPORTS CLASS RULES 2006:
1. Machines Must be unfaired or tail-faired only.
2. Any tail-fairing must be load-carrying.
3. There must be some form of chain-management so that turning is not restricted.
4. Minimum seat height of 350mm.
6. 4 Worst results to be dropped at the end of the season.
Alan
|
|
|
gNick
BHPC Member
Joined: 22 February 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1977
|
Posted: 31 October 2005 at 12:42pm |
The hidden rule 5 - Extra points equivalent to those of the winner are to be allocated to Secretarial Alans for each race, attendance notwithstanding.
|
gNick
"I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles"
|
|
AlanGoodman
Admin Group
Club Chairman
Joined: 04 March 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7809
|
Posted: 31 October 2005 at 12:46pm |
Well spotted!!
5. was the maximum speed rule which was the only one that seemed cause any great debate... But I like your suggestion better anyway... along with double points for blue Hurricanes...
|
|
|
AlanGoodman
Admin Group
Club Chairman
Joined: 04 March 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7809
|
Posted: 02 March 2006 at 7:18am |
I haven't had a single response to the bit in the newsletter yet...
Anybody got any further thoughts on this before the season starts??
|
|
|
graydog
BHPC Member
Joined: 16 January 2006
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 1481
|
Posted: 02 March 2006 at 8:17am |
Good morning,
Whilst I have yet to enjoy the pleasure of engaged battle on the track and do not see a class that I fit, slow git on a bike, some observations perhaps to pedantic.
//2. Any tail-fairing must be load-carrying.
How much load must they carry in the race?
//3. There must be some form of chain-management so that turning is not //restricted.
If I have 5 degrees lockstops, yet the chain runs by the wheel but not touching on my full lock, do I conform to rule 3?
4. Minimum seat height of 350mm.
This is 14” along way of the deck, I would like to see 200mm or 8”
6. 4 Worst results to be dropped at the end of the season.
From how high?
|
|
AlanGoodman
Admin Group
Club Chairman
Joined: 04 March 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7809
|
Posted: 02 March 2006 at 11:01am |
graydog wrote:
slow git on a bike
|
That sounds like the perfect Sports Class definition to me!!
I think the idea really is to have a class for road-going bikes rather than full-on racers...
200mm seat height and tail-fairings that aren't designed to be carriers as well would make Sports Class impossible to distinguish from unfaired...
|
|
|
Rhino
Visitor (new)
Joined: 27 May 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 27
|
Posted: 03 March 2006 at 6:32pm |
Rather than particular seat heights how about -
If you sit tucked in behind your front wheel non sports, above it ok ?
|
Challenge Hurricane
High Velocity - homebuilt dual 700c highracer
|
|